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29ers

Postby Mccraque » Thu Nov 15, 2012 17:22 pm

It seems that you cannot pick up a bike mag now without it being full of 29ers....most companies seem to have gotten on the wagon (wheeler) now. At the Gorrick on sunday a number of people were whizzing past (me) on them...

I rode a 29er in spain (Commencal Meta 29) earlier in the year and my expectation of it being a big unwieldy beast were put to bed early on. It seemed to fly.

But - in the environment I was riding, I didn't have a familiar 26" to compare to. I don't want to open the 26v29 debate that is being done to death elsewhere....but what do Strava users who regularly ride both types of bikes on the same trails find? Do certain sections favour one over the other? Is the 29er - as the mags will tell you - universally quicker everywhere?

I told myself that I wouldn't get pulled in by the marketing stuff and that I have a nice bike already. Yet....every month a new mag plops onto my doormat with shiny 29ers with smiling testers on board....

Please....pull me back from the brink.....

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Re: 29ers

Postby supersonic » Thu Nov 15, 2012 17:34 pm

Buy this months MBUK - they test (with caveats) the three wheel sizes of a set course and time them.

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Re: 29ers

Postby bennett_346 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 17:57 pm

I'm sure it'll be impartial and have all the information we need to know.

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Re: 29ers

Postby Mccraque » Thu Nov 15, 2012 21:06 pm

Just looked the results up online. 26" last in every respect. Up hills. Down hills. Average lap time.

Surprise surprise.

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Re: 29ers

Postby bennett_346 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 21:14 pm

Suprise surprise indeed.

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Re: 29ers

Postby ddraver » Thu Nov 15, 2012 21:50 pm

I was ambivalent about 29ers until I saw a Van Nichols Ti one in the LBS, even though it was in full Holland XCrace guise it was still very sexy....

If I was to buy one, it would be like that (though maybe with rigid forks...)
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Re: 29ers

Postby njee20 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 08:45 am

I'm sure it'll be impartial and have all the information we need to know.


Matt Page did it - he was talking about it on Facebook, he wanted it to be as impartial as possible - he's a racer, and wanted to know the fastest bike.

It was all tested using PowerTaps, same rims, tyres, fork travel, rear travel, tyre pressure, bike weight, rider weight etc. It's about as scientific as you can make a test, and certainly wasn't done by anyone with an ulterior motive.

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Re: 29ers

Postby dmorton » Fri Nov 16, 2012 09:06 am

My thoughts and conclusion after reading it were that a full sus 140mm+ 27.5" wheeled bike could be very quick and a lot of fun.

I got to this from FS being generally faster than HT, then the test showed 29 and 27.5" were faster than 26". Out of 27.5" and 29" you can have more travel on a frame with 27.5" wheels so maybe that would be the fastest?

I also agree with the comment about 29ers being less 'fun'. I own one, I hit jumps, lips and bumps less. My 26er currently garaged but I can't wait to get out on it again.

This wheel size thing has parallels with board sports, e.g. snowboarding. Generally short boards are for messing about on and longer boards are for out right speed and stability
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Re: 29ers

Postby EH_Rob » Fri Nov 16, 2012 09:21 am

As long as you're having fun when you're riding who cares what's faster in a test?

Although I've never owned a 29er I recently went from a 120mm hardtail to a 160mm FS. I'm slightly faster now on most trails I've ridden on both on the FS, the exact time gap depends on the exact nature of the trail. However on a few my HT times still stand.

However, I have way more fun on the FS. Does this matter to anyone else? No.

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Re: 29ers

Postby njee20 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 09:34 am

As long as you're having fun when you're riding who cares what's faster in a test?


Plenty of people! Folk who race, whether against their mates or 'properly', people are generally seeking more speed.

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Re: 29ers

Postby miss notax » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:25 am

I would actually quite like to try one but I have yet to be convinced that they are actually a viable option for *ahem* slightly shorter people like me. It just seems too much to fit into a small frame :?
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Re: 29ers

Postby cooldad » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:37 am

miss notax wrote:I would actually quite like to try one but I have yet to be convinced that they are actually a viable option for *ahem* slightly shorter people like me. It just seems too much to fit into a small frame :?

I'm sure you can fit plenty into your *ahem* small frame*


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Re: 29ers

Postby miss notax » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:40 am

Ha ha, i'm obviously having an extra rubbish day at work because that actually made me laugh!! :lol: :lol:

But I would still like to try a 29er!
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Re: 29ers

Postby njee20 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:43 am

Emily Batty and Willow Koerber are 5'2" and ride (Trek) 29ers, it can be done! Toe overlap and getting the front end low enough are generally the issues.

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Re: 29ers

Postby miss notax » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:47 am

Ah, ok, that's interesting....

You realise that if I end up buying a 29er in the next year now it'll be your fault now for telling me it can done :wink:
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Re: 29ers

Postby njee20 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:50 am

And here is Emily Batty's, complete with -17 degree stem!

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Re: 29ers

Postby miss notax » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:04 pm

Very nice - but can't help thinking it just looks a bit odd :?
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Re: 29ers

Postby DodgeT » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:49 pm

njee20 wrote:Emily Batty and Willow Koerber are 5'2" and ride (Trek) 29ers, it can be done! Toe overlap and getting the front end low enough are generally the issues.


This bit alongwith mental images just made me smile.

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Re: 29ers

Postby njee20 » Fri Nov 16, 2012 13:18 pm

miss notax wrote:Very nice - but can't help thinking it just looks a bit odd :?


Pretty much! If you weren't seeking quite such an extreme position it would be more 'normal' though. The stem is the bit that looks really daft.

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Re: 29ers

Postby supersonic » Fri Nov 16, 2012 13:33 pm

It was all tested using PowerTaps, same rims, tyres, fork travel, rear travel, tyre pressure, bike weight, rider weight etc


The MBUK test? (latest edition?)


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