Penderyn (and other quality spirits)

Come and join in the banter: discuss here anything you want, whether bike related or not!
User avatar
rubertoe
Posts: 3965
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2011 17:14 pm

Penderyn (and other quality spirits)

Postby rubertoe » Tue Nov 27, 2012 13:34 pm

What with Xmas coming up and it being a season for family etc etc blah blah...

I got my father-in-law a bottle of Penderyn single malt.

whisky

He is Welsh you see.. now my question as someone who doesn't take whisky (I'm more of a Red Wine, Cider and G&T man) is how do I drink it. I don't want to seem like the uncouth buffoon that I am, and I am sure that I will be offered a glass or two after Xmas dinner.

So how do I take it?
Last edited by rubertoe on Wed Dec 05, 2012 14:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."

PX Kaffenback 2 = Work Horse
B-Twin Alur 700 = Sundays and Hills

Lefthook
Posts: 108
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:11 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby Lefthook » Tue Nov 27, 2012 13:40 pm


Corporate Camper
Posts: 270
Joined: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:11 am

Re: Penderyn

Postby Corporate Camper » Tue Nov 27, 2012 13:59 pm

rubertoe wrote:So how do I take it?


You just drink it.

Don't put anything in it. Maybe a cube of ice is acceptable, but I really don't think it is.
If you put Coke in it then you're a great big Nobber.

User avatar
rjsterry
Posts: 8507
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 18:26 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby rjsterry » Tue Nov 27, 2012 14:40 pm

Corporate Camper wrote:
rubertoe wrote:So how do I take it?


You just drink it.

Don't put anything in it. Maybe a cube of ice is acceptable, but I really don't think it is.
If you put Coke in it then you're a great big Nobber.


No ice. Water (not London tap) is acceptable.
1997 Giant Peloton 7200 - FCN 4 (5 if it looks like rain)
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
1980s BSA 10sp

"Be there, eat sausages, gain ultimate respect"

User avatar
daviesee
Posts: 6445
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 18:37 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby daviesee » Tue Nov 27, 2012 15:13 pm

rjsterry wrote:
Corporate Camper wrote:
rubertoe wrote:So how do I take it?


You just drink it.

Don't put anything in it. Maybe a cube of ice is acceptable, but I really don't think it is.
If you put Coke in it then you're a great big Nobber.


No ice. Water (not London tap) is acceptable.

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

Only a little though, just enough to release the aromas. Roughly a teaspoon to a tablespoons worth.

Don't just knock it back either. Let it linger in the mouth a small while before swallowing.
If you don't like it, that's fine.
It just means you are not a man. :wink: :wink:
None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.

Underscore
Posts: 684
Joined: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:55 am

Re: Penderyn

Postby Underscore » Tue Nov 27, 2012 15:23 pm

Agreed: no ice. Had a bottle of Penderyn a couple years back and don't recalling feeling the need to add water so I would just take it as it comes. Nice whisky.

Interestingly, I went to whisky tasting the other night where they provide a plastic pipette for adding water. Even for the Octomore 5.1 at 59.5%, few felt the need to dilute with a volume of water greater than 5% of the volume of whisky.

_

User avatar
vermin
Posts: 1698
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:43 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby vermin » Tue Nov 27, 2012 15:44 pm

Too many pot plants have been poisoned over the years as a result of my not wishing to rudely reject peoples' well intentioned offers of 'a wee dram'. I have not found a single way of avoiding an instant gag reflex at the mere smell of the stuff. Even 'whisky flavoured sweets or what-have-you. Just not the target market I guess.

However, not wishing to derail the thread, but that gin looks promising - gold award they say. Anyone tried it? I've become quite comfortable in the Sipsmith way over the last couple of years, but always on the lookout for the next big thing.

User avatar
Sketchley
Posts: 4125
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 13:59 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby Sketchley » Tue Nov 27, 2012 15:50 pm

rubertoe wrote:What with Xmas coming up and it being a season for family etc etc blah blah...

I got my father-in-law a bottle of Penderyn single malt.

whisky

He is Welsh you see.. now my question as someone who doesn't take whisky (I'm more of a Red Wine, Cider and G&T man) is how do I drink it. I don't want to seem like the uncouth buffoon that I am, and I am sure that I will be offered a glass or two after Xmas dinner.

So how do I take it?


Penderyn is bottled at 46%, not 40% like most scotch single malts. The head distiller, who i've met and talked me through the process, does this diliberately so that you can add water before drinking to bring out the flavour. He feels this is better than putting more water in before bottling to get it down to 40% like most scotch. It also allows the drinker to decide how must water they want to add without diluting too much. Personally I never add water to scotch (unless it's cask strength) but I do with Penderyn. So get a bottle of pure mineral / spring water as you wouldn't want to use nasty tap water, put it in very clean jug, get two nice wiskey glasses, I use glencairn glasses with a Penderyn logo on them, but any good quality glass with a bit a weight behind it is fine. Next get the bottle put it all on a table next with the jub of water and the glasses, ideally next to some comfy chairs and a roaring fire. Then poor a nice measure, always your guess first mind, and then add a small drop of water to yours not thiers let them do that and always start with a small drop of water as you can add more but it's much harder to take it out again, then spin it round the glass to mix it and smell the whiskey, like you would a good red wine, and discover the first joy of penderyn is that it smells fantastic, and then drink, don't gulp but don't sip either as you want to taste it then repeat until the bottle is empty.... If you would like me to show you how get a bottle and come round! Oh and never ever put ice in it or chill it....
--
Chris

Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5

User avatar
Sketchley
Posts: 4125
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 13:59 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby Sketchley » Tue Nov 27, 2012 15:54 pm

vermin wrote:Too many pot plants have been poisoned over the years as a result of my not wishing to rudely reject peoples' well intentioned offers of 'a wee dram'. I have not found a single way of avoiding an instant gag reflex at the mere smell of the stuff. Even 'whisky flavoured sweets or what-have-you. Just not the target market I guess.

However, not wishing to derail the thread, but that gin looks promising - gold award they say. Anyone tried it? I've become quite comfortable in the Sipsmith way over the last couple of years, but always on the lookout for the next big thing.


Yes I have, and their vodka which si also good. The gin is realy nice and very smooth, it makes a great G&T or better still Gin, Lime and Soda... however most surprising thing about it is that you can drink it neat and it is still very nice and very smooth, which cannot be said for most gins around.
--
Chris

Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5

User avatar
notsoblue
Posts: 5771
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2010 18:08 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby notsoblue » Tue Nov 27, 2012 16:32 pm

vermin wrote:Too many pot plants have been poisoned over the years as a result of my not wishing to rudely reject peoples' well intentioned offers of 'a wee dram'. I have not found a single way of avoiding an instant gag reflex at the mere smell of the stuff. Even 'whisky flavoured sweets or what-have-you. Just not the target market I guess.

However, not wishing to derail the thread, but that gin looks promising - gold award they say. Anyone tried it? I've become quite comfortable in the Sipsmith way over the last couple of years, but always on the lookout for the next big thing.


Yeah, I can't stand Whiskey myself, makes me retch too...

I've been to the Penderyn distillery actually, and picked up some Gin while I was there. Not tried it yet though, will report back soon.

cyclingprop
Posts: 2358
Joined: Tue Nov 08, 2011 20:58 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby cyclingprop » Tue Nov 27, 2012 16:36 pm

As you like it would be my view. If you don't enjoy the end result, then what's the point?
What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?

User avatar
Initialised
Posts: 2955
Joined: Sat Sep 18, 2010 21:30 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby Initialised » Tue Nov 27, 2012 20:55 pm

Sketchley wrote:
rubertoe wrote:What with Xmas coming up and it being a season for family etc etc blah blah...

I got my father-in-law a bottle of Penderyn single malt.

whisky

He is Welsh you see.. now my question as someone who doesn't take whisky (I'm more of a Red Wine, Cider and G&T man) is how do I drink it. I don't want to seem like the uncouth buffoon that I am, and I am sure that I will be offered a glass or two after Xmas dinner.

So how do I take it?


Penderyn is bottled at 46%, not 40% like most scotch single malts. The head distiller, who i've met and talked me through the process, does this diliberately so that you can add water before drinking to bring out the flavour. He feels this is better than putting more water in before bottling to get it down to 40% like most scotch. It also allows the drinker to decide how must water they want to add without diluting too much. Personally I never add water to scotch (unless it's cask strength) but I do with Penderyn. So get a bottle of pure mineral / spring water as you wouldn't want to use nasty tap water, put it in very clean jug, get two nice wiskey glasses, I use glencairn glasses with a Penderyn logo on them, but any good quality glass with a bit a weight behind it is fine. Next get the bottle put it all on a table next with the jub of water and the glasses, ideally next to some comfy chairs and a roaring fire. Then poor a nice measure, always your guess first mind, and then add a small drop of water to yours not thiers let them do that and always start with a small drop of water as you can add more but it's much harder to take it out again, then spin it round the glass to mix it and smell the whiskey, like you would a good red wine, and discover the first joy of penderyn is that it smells fantastic, and then drink, don't gulp but don't sip either as you want to taste it then repeat until the bottle is empty.... If you would like me to show you how get a bottle and come round! Oh and never ever put ice in it or chill it....
*drool* WANT
I used to just ride my bike to work but now I find myself going out looking for bigger and bigger hills.

User avatar
Agent57
Posts: 2263
Joined: Wed May 14, 2008 10:45 am

Re: Penderyn

Postby Agent57 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 21:04 pm

vermin wrote:I have not found a single way of avoiding an instant gag reflex at the mere smell of the stuff.


I used to feel that way, but a colleague persuaded me I just hadn't found the right whisky yet. Turned out he was right - I really like the heavily peated ones. Got a bottle of Laphroaig Quarter Cask for my birthday last weekend. \o/
MTB commuter / 531c commuter / CR1 Team 2009 / RockHopper Pro Disc / 10 mile PB: 25:52 (Jun 2014)

Tricycleboy
Posts: 364
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:13 am

Re: Penderyn

Postby Tricycleboy » Tue Nov 27, 2012 21:10 pm

Penderyn- ahh that takes me back...

First tried it in the pub in the crypt of Llanthony priory, a ruined agustinian abbey in the brecon beacons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanthony_Priory. I suggest a visit- they're more than happy for you to take your whiskey for a walk around the ruins in the evening. Bloody brilliant.

User avatar
Sketchley
Posts: 4125
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 13:59 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby Sketchley » Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:50 am

£5 off in Sainsbury's at the moment ~£28 a bottle. Ufortunatley jus the Maderia finish and not the Sherrywood, but bargain....
--
Chris

Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5

User avatar
vermin
Posts: 1698
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:43 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby vermin » Sun Dec 02, 2012 12:14 pm

Sketchley wrote:£5 off in Sainsbury's at the moment ~£28 a bottle. Ufortunatley jus the Maderia finish and not the Sherrywood, but bargain....


2 posts, both Sainsbury's booze bargains. Proper prioritization.

User avatar
Bill Gates
Posts: 441
Joined: Sat Aug 08, 2009 17:42 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby Bill Gates » Sun Dec 02, 2012 18:07 pm

Penderyn is rank.

I got a gift about three years ago for Christmas and the best use I could find for it was to make a spring onion and whisky sauce for cooking when having a steak at home. This was second only to chain cleaner.
------

"I like riding in my car, it's not quite a Jaguar."

User avatar
itboffin
Posts: 16642
Joined: Thu Jun 05, 2008 23:54 pm
Contact:

Re: Penderyn

Postby itboffin » Sun Dec 02, 2012 18:54 pm

yuck
Rule #5 // Harden The fark Up.
Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.

Mouth
Posts: 783
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2011 23:08 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby Mouth » Sun Dec 02, 2012 23:10 pm

Haven't been able to drink Whisky (Scottish ones) or Whiskey (non-Scottish ones) since an incident involving theft from a local off licence when I was about 12. I'll spare the details but a couple of mates pinched a bottle of Grants which we shared three ways. Even a sniff of JD turns my stomach to this day.

A friend recently received a bottle of Penderyn and he enjoyed it quite a lot. He generally takes Jura as his personal favourite. Don't know if that helps anyone.

I might give a bottle of that vodka a go though. I need an alternative to Grey Goose.
The only disability in life is a poor attitude.

User avatar
mudcow007
Posts: 3605
Joined: Wed Apr 08, 2009 18:06 pm

Re: Penderyn

Postby mudcow007 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 09:28 am

just stick loads of coke in it with ice, you will be reet
Keeping it classy since '83


Return to “Commuting Chat”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: HamishD, memsley89, rower63, shamrock134 and 9 guests