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Mac laptop

Postby CiB » Wed Nov 28, 2012 13:59 pm

Hivemind opinion sought pls.

Boy Elder is likely to have a laptop soon, disguised as a Christmas / Easter / birthday / Mothering Sunday and August Bank Holiday weekend in Whitby present. Ostensibly it's for school work but he's nearly 16 so will probably use it more for FB, email and websites of an interest to a teenage boy - Manutd.com probably.

He's v keen on a Mac, because he likes playing about with Garageband and because one of his A level courses will require him to use some Mac-based music recording s/w (Logica? I dunno, yet).

So - those in the know on Macs - what's the recommendation for a well-specced Mac lappy? I don't mind spending the money as long as it's worthwhile (it can be his version of Di2) so Win8 & various flavours of Linux won't cut it, much as I'd like him to be enthused by learning about dual booting & running different distros.

So there yer go - in the style of Road Beginners, what's the best Mac lappy? As in, most suitable for general use + music & probably a bit of video editing.

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby TailWindHome » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:14 pm

Is a Mac laptop one which is made in Scotland?

Mac? MAC? Like scottish names? Geddit?

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby meanredspider » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:17 pm

I think just a MacBook Pro of suitable size. Mrs MRS has the MacBook Pro which is very good. I have the MacBook Air which is a thing of beauty but vanishingly small storage - that would be fine if you have a NAS or external HDD. The only downside of the MacBook Pro is its weight - it's very chunky.

Be aware that you can get educational discount on the Mac website - though costco.co.uk has good deals on specced-up Macs with 2 years warranty thrown in too.

ETA - you can dual-boot Macs using Bootcamp. Or use "Parallels" to run Windows virtually on your Mac desktop. That really does eat into the HDD space on a MacBook Air though
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Re: Mac laptop

Postby jonnyboy77 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:20 pm

depending on budget, I don't think you can wrong here: http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/home/s ... acbook_pro

The MacBook Air is probably less suitable, with less storage and less processing power albeit lightweight and attractive (to some).

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby Green Brompton » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:22 pm

Try and get it using the education discount... it may need to be purchased through a school network computer.
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Re: Mac laptop

Postby Tricycleboy » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:23 pm

+1 for Macbook Pro.

Had mine for 5 years and as fast as it was on day 1. Used for both professional quality graphics stuff and messing about with music and games etc. Hoping it'll last forever, as the ease of use and speed and most importantly reliablity is awesome.

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby rjsterry » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:25 pm

What MRS said. MacBook Pro, then it's just a question of screen size, speed and storage. The MacBook Air is really designed for people who fly a lot and store all their data elsewhere/online, so probably not ideal for CiB jr.
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Re: Mac laptop

Postby meanredspider » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:26 pm

Green Brompton wrote:Try and get it using the education discount... it may need to be purchased through a school network computer.


I've bought 2 with educational discount (3 schoolkids and a teacher in the house) and never been asked for any proof.
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Re: Mac laptop

Postby kelsen » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:31 pm

In case it doesn't get mentioned, a MacBook Pro :lol:

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby Green Brompton » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:32 pm

Ah, the OH works at a university, and has used it to purchase many iMacs and other Apple products! Cool, wasn't sure. :)
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Re: Mac laptop

Postby The Fuggler » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:36 pm

I use my Macbook Pro for music editing (Garageband, Logic, Ableton Live). When I was looking at upgrading earlier in the year, I spent quite a lot of time talking to the team at the local Apple store.

Consensus was that the bottom of the range Macbook Pro was the one to go for as it still had plenty of grunt for music editing. The only issue was the screen is 13" and if you're editing a lot of tracks in Ableton, the screen could feel a little cramped, but for a young pup with decent eyesight, it shouldn't be an issue.
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Re: Mac laptop

Postby coriordan » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:39 pm

Macbook pro. I would say you wouldn't really need anything bigger than the standard 13.3 screen.

If you are doing video editing I would go for the higher spec one of the 2 (usually has more processing power/RAM) as these can be handy. More HDD space is a bonus - note the solid state drives (SSD) are more considerably more expensive.

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby daviesee » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:40 pm

Just to confirm the above - for serious music and especially video, you want a Macbook Pro.

To make you feel better about the purchase, I have a 2005 15" 256Gb version and it is still flawless and can do anything I ask of it. I only upgraded because I needed/wanted a larger screen and more memory (without an external drive).
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Re: Mac laptop

Postby DrLex » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:41 pm

FWIW, buying on behalf of an undergrad. @ Oxford or Cambridge gives 15% discount and free AppleCare to the DVD of year 3.

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby meanredspider » Wed Nov 28, 2012 14:47 pm

So Apple's price for the "basic" MacBook Pro 13" is £999

Education price is £939

Costco's price is £969 but with double the RAM (8GB) and 2 year's warranty

Amazon £885

John Lewis £999 with 2 year's warranty
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Re: Mac laptop

Postby vermin » Wed Nov 28, 2012 15:00 pm

meanredspider wrote:So Apple's price for the "basic" MacBook Pro 13" is £999

Education price is £939

Costco's price is £969 but with double the RAM (8GB) and 2 year's warranty

Amazon £885

John Lewis £999 with 2 year's warranty


Holy cr@p! A 13" lappy with a previous generation Core i5 proc and 4GB of RAM costs £1000? No wonder the stock value's going through the roof!

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby twist83 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 15:11 pm

Echo the above however if you can squeeze for a Retina display Macbook pro they are truly stunning although a few ££ more.

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby jonnyboy77 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 15:13 pm

vermin wrote:
meanredspider wrote:So Apple's price for the "basic" MacBook Pro 13" is £999

Education price is £939

Costco's price is £969 but with double the RAM (8GB) and 2 year's warranty

Amazon £885

John Lewis £999 with 2 year's warranty


Holy cr@p! A 13" lappy with a previous generation Core i5 proc and 4GB of RAM costs £1000? No wonder the stock value's going through the roof!


I can't believe it took this long for some Apple hate to surface :)

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Re: Mac laptop

Postby rjsterry » Wed Nov 28, 2012 15:15 pm

vermin wrote:
meanredspider wrote:So Apple's price for the "basic" MacBook Pro 13" is £999

Education price is £939

Costco's price is £969 but with double the RAM (8GB) and 2 year's warranty

Amazon £885

John Lewis £999 with 2 year's warranty


Holy cr@p! A 13" lappy with a previous generation Core i5 proc and 4GB of RAM costs £1000? No wonder the stock value's going through the roof!


Gotta pay for those nice rounded corners and that seamless aluminium body. You'd think a cyclist who turned down a replacement bike on the basis of it's paint job alone would understand the appeal of that. ;)
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Re: Mac laptop

Postby vermin » Wed Nov 28, 2012 15:34 pm

rjsterry wrote:
vermin wrote:
meanredspider wrote:So Apple's price for the "basic" MacBook Pro 13" is £999

Education price is £939

Costco's price is £969 but with double the RAM (8GB) and 2 year's warranty

Amazon £885

John Lewis £999 with 2 year's warranty


Holy cr@p! A 13" lappy with a previous generation Core i5 proc and 4GB of RAM costs £1000? No wonder the stock value's going through the roof!


Gotta pay for those nice rounded corners and that seamless aluminium body. You'd think a cyclist who turned down a replacement bike on the basis of it's paint job alone would understand the appeal of that. ;)


:lol: I get it, it's like paying double for an aero frame; when you always ride in baggies. Yup, I'd still do it. :wink:

Not sure why/how my surprise constitutes Apple hate :roll: On the other hand, I do get that it was not the least bit helpful. As you were...
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