Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

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Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby Aggerdoo » Tue Dec 11, 2012 15:13 pm

I'm looking at getting a new road bike and after much deliberation I have decided I want to get the Trek Domane 2.3C or 2.0 (triple or Compact)

The only main difference I can is the difference between the 2.3 having shimano 105 and the 2.0 has Tiagra. This is going to be my first road bike so
1) will it make a noticable difference between the 2?
2) is the 105 £200 worth of a benefit?
3) Am I missing something on the specs that makes one noticably better/worse?

The links to the different specs are below:

Domane 2.3
http://www.trekbikes.com/uk/en/bikes/ro ... _compact/#

Domane 2.0
http://www.trekbikes.com/uk/en/bikes/ro ... mane_2_0/#


I also add that this is NOT as a part of the cycle to work scheme so it doesn't matter its over £1000 (just means i'll have to do a bit of overtime).

Any comments or help would be greatly appreciated as i'm looking to buy the bike at the beginning of Jan.

Cheers

Aggerdoo

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby PeteMadoc » Tue Dec 11, 2012 15:28 pm

Seems expensive to me

105 carbon Ridley for £932

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/ridley-orion-1105b-105/

There are others

Ultegra and carbon for £1155

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/prorace-deamon-titan-ultegra/

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby zx6man » Tue Dec 11, 2012 15:37 pm

This won't help in the slightest, but I don't like the 2.0 colour so would be the 2.3 for me.

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby Aggerdoo » Tue Dec 11, 2012 15:40 pm

zx6man wrote:This won't help in the slightest, but I don't like the 2.0 colour so would be the 2.3 for me.



That is my reasoning as aswell at the moment for getting the 2.3. I don't dislike the 2.0 paint job but i do prefer the 2.3 haha really technical stuff!!

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby zx6man » Tue Dec 11, 2012 15:48 pm

And new Tiagra chainset look naff.

2.3 it is mate......

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby danowat » Tue Dec 11, 2012 16:05 pm

£200?, I'd have the Tiagra, 105 isn't worth me spending £200 extra (I have both Tiagra and 105 (also SRAM rival too)

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby sturmey » Tue Dec 11, 2012 16:21 pm

£200?, I'd have the Tiagra, 105 isn't worth me spending £200 extra (I have both Tiagra and 105 (also SRAM rival too)


Tend to agree.

BUT... lose those Tiagra brake calipers asap. They are not anywhere near as good stoppers as the 105's.

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby CarlosDSanchez » Tue Dec 11, 2012 16:34 pm

Just change the brake pads, the calipers are fine.
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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby ChrisAOnABike » Tue Dec 11, 2012 16:38 pm

I'm pretty new to it all, but I couldn't really tell the difference between the shifting on two Giant Defys that I test rode - one Tiagra and one 105.
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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby on-yer-bike » Tue Dec 11, 2012 16:56 pm

buy the one you like the like of the most. This IS important. Imagine having to live with a woman you didnt fancy?
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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby sturmey » Tue Dec 11, 2012 18:09 pm

Just change the brake pads, the calipers are fine.


I have tried every aftermarket pad available in Tiagra calipers- they are still nowhere near 105's for braking performance.

Tiagra calipers are £25 a pair. That should tell you enough about their quality and performance.

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby Raffles » Tue Dec 11, 2012 18:29 pm

part of the deal is "knowing" you have 105.

my caad8 was the sora model but i yanked everything off it and replaced them to 105 in entirety......everything !

im just superchuffed knowing my caad8 has full 105 and that makes it well worth it to me.
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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby night_porter » Wed Dec 12, 2012 05:22 am

You will not notice any difference between Tiagra and 105 apart from the looks. 105 has cabling under the bar tape whereas Tiagra doesn't.

Between the 2 Treks the 2.3 does have a carbon seat post as well so if that is important to you then is it £200 worth? You could buy a carbon seat post for much cheaper if that floated your boat, I have both types on different bikes and fail to see (feel) the difference.

If the colour makes no difference then ride them both and buy the one that feels the best and if they are no different then buy the cheapest one.

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby chanjy » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:47 am

^^ just like shagging an ugly bird is the same as a fit bird once the lights are out. Still wouldn't though.

If you're spending £2k or £2.2k on a bike then you clearly aren't after the cheapest thing around. Get the one that you want, forget about whether it's "worth" the money. After all you'll not be noticeably faster with either compared to a £300 one from Decathlon...

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby hulla the hulla » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:26 pm

on-yer-bike wrote:Imagine having to live with a woman you didnt fancy?
I don't have to imagine.....
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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby prawny » Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:45 pm

You wouldn't notice, tiagra is fine. 105 just looks better. I actually prefer the shape of the hoods on the tiagras and the cable adjusters are loads eaier to fit/adjust on the fly.
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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby andreashicks » Fri Aug 09, 2013 00:05 am

sturmey wrote:
Just change the brake pads, the calipers are fine.


I have tried every aftermarket pad available in Tiagra calipers- they are still nowhere near 105's for braking performance.

Tiagra calipers are £25 a pair. That should tell you enough about their quality and performance.


£25 each i'll have you know.

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby stu-bim » Fri Aug 09, 2013 00:32 am

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby Camcycle1974 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 06:23 am

My sentiments exactly. Do they ship them to Barbados?! Looks are important. £200 extra on the bike he's looking at isn't much more for 105 and a carbon post. Why bother though when you can have a Pro carbon for £999 with Ultegra? Ok, not full Ultegra but mechs and shifters is still a good spec. brakes and cranks can be upgraded later on. I would have Tiagra if it wasn't so Ugly. Part of Shimano's marketing strategy perhaps?

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Re: Worth the extra for Shimano 105 over Shimano Tiagra??

Postby markos1963 » Fri Aug 09, 2013 07:47 am

There is little point now as Tiagra has moved to 10 speed. You can upgrade parts as they wear out. Tiagra is very similar to the 5600 in terms of performance. I would go with Tiagra and swap to Ultegra as you upgrade, you will notice this more than going to 105.


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