Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

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Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby dai_t75 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 13:25 pm

On the last couple of rides my bike has picked up an annoying creaking sound. It only happens when I am out of the saddle. It also only happens when the handle bars shift to the right. If I had to guess I would say the noise is coming from the area where the stem joins the main frame. Although I have read quite a few people say where they think the noise is and where it actually is turns out is no where near. Thinking this may be the case as wouldn't the sound happen on both the left and right tilt if it was where I think it is?

Any tips on trying to identify the problem area? Could it be something to do with the pedal/shoe/cleat given the tilt happens on particular downstrokes? If so, would chain lube be ok to put on the pedals?

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby ASISLIFE » Mon Jan 07, 2013 16:30 pm

Hi
I've had same problem, thought it was BB or pedals, after trying to sort out both of those it still remained. Took it to bike shop who gave it once over, re did headset and hey presto, sounds like yours maybe same issue, however unidentified creaking often a case of process of elimination...good luck
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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby tiredofwhiners » Mon Jan 07, 2013 16:39 pm

Cycle standing up but keep the bars straight
Cycle standing up and keep the handlebars moving side to side
Cycle sitting down and keep the bars straight
Cycle sitting down and keep the handlebars moving side to side

All useful in a process of elimination.

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby hipshot » Mon Jan 07, 2013 16:45 pm

I had something similar, a maddening clicking sound coming from the bottom bracket, but only when I got out of the saddle giving it the beans. It's a tricky one because clicking could be coming from anywhere, especially on an alloy bike like mine, the frame acts like a tuning fork.

My only advice is to eliminate the simplest things first. Shoe hitting crank? Front derailleur cable hitting shoe? Valve stem collars loose? Tighten QR levers? Tighten & grease seatpost? Check for other loose bolts. Only then think about hubs, BB etc.

Mine turned out to be play in the headset.

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby HonestAl » Mon Jan 07, 2013 20:34 pm

Might sound daft but I've fixed exactly the same problem by removing, re-lubing and retightening the seatpost as suggested by hipshot. Careful you don't overdo it if it's a carbon frame or post though.
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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby ForumNewbie » Mon Jan 07, 2013 22:19 pm

HonestAl wrote:Might sound daft but I've fixed exactly the same problem by removing, re-lubing and retightening the seatpost as suggested by hipshot. Careful you don't overdo it if it's a carbon frame or post though.

I don't think it can be the seatpost if it only happens when he is out of the saddle. I had a problem with the seatpost creaking but it was when I was in the saddle. I identified it because it didn't happen when I stood up out of the saddle, i.e. when there was no pressure on the seatpost to make it creak.

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby Sprool » Mon Jan 07, 2013 22:46 pm

my mtb creaks when i cycle it up steep hills out of the saddle. It was the spokes rubbing against each other. I wiped em down with some GT85 spray and it silenced it. Really need to get them all trued and tightened now...

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby HonestAl » Tue Jan 08, 2013 07:22 am

ForumNewbie wrote:
HonestAl wrote:Might sound daft but I've fixed exactly the same problem by removing, re-lubing and retightening the seatpost as suggested by hipshot. Careful you don't overdo it if it's a carbon frame or post though.

I don't think it can be the seatpost if it only happens when he is out of the saddle. I had a problem with the seatpost creaking but it was when I was in the saddle. I identified it because it didn't happen when I stood up out of the saddle, i.e. when there was no pressure on the seatpost to make it creak.


Yep, I read that. As I said, I had the same problem (as in out of the saddle) which I cured by fiddling with the post. I'm not sure I understand why either, but remember the squeak won't come from the bit of post sticking out, or the saddle. More likely from the frame and collar flexing around the post. I'm far from convinced there can be an explanation for many of the things afflicting a would be silent bike!! :-)
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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby giant man » Tue Jan 08, 2013 08:14 am

don't discount cleats creaking, some do this, dab of oil puts that right imo
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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby Navrig » Tue Jan 08, 2013 09:00 am

There is a whole section dedicated to this in Workshop:

viewtopic.php?f=40004&t=12581556

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby andytheotter » Tue Jan 08, 2013 09:58 am

The aero spokes on my set of rovals creak where they cross each other...worth a look.

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby pswinfield » Wed Jan 09, 2013 14:32 pm

Mine was clicking as well. Turned out it was the BB cable guide. Tightened it up and it sorted it out. Madness as it was so loud I thought the crank was cracked

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby Slowandsteady » Wed Jan 09, 2013 17:01 pm

I had this problem on my caad.

A light layer of grease on the seat post cured it.
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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby ShutUpLegs » Wed Jan 09, 2013 17:46 pm

Is it your knees?
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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby awsm » Wed Jan 09, 2013 17:56 pm

HonestAl wrote:Might sound daft but I've fixed exactly the same problem by removing, re-lubing and retightening the seatpost as suggested by hipshot. Careful you don't overdo it if it's a carbon frame or post though.


I had the same problem. Incidentally it was also pretty much the last thing I tried.

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby dai_t75 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 22:16 pm

Thanks for the responses lads.

From the replies it seems it can be anything and everything :)

So far I have lubed the pedals a bit, tightened my cleats and greased them a little bit. Hopefully this will sort it out.... won't be out for a ride til the weekend to find out though. If not I will try the seatpost as this is the most common answer in this thread!

I can see this being a pain to sort out...

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby Woodywmb » Thu Jan 10, 2013 00:06 am

Make a list and work from front of the bike to back. The culprits are most commonly:
Pedals
Seatpost
Crank

(All need greased and tightened FULLY. No grease if the BB is square taper)

Less likely are:
Wheels (spokes rubbing together when under pressure, rims flexing and rubbing against brake block when out of saddle)
Bottom bracket (loose, may need locking compound)
Chainring bolts (loose, friction between rings)
Stem (loose, movement around headset)

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby dai_t75 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 22:54 pm

Still there today!

Tried to narrow down the possibilities - I kept the handlebars as level as I could and it still happened on the left foot downstroke. This makes me believe it may be the left pedal/crank. I will grease the seatpost just incase though.

Woodywmb wrote:Make a list and work from front of the bike to back. The culprits are most commonly:
Pedals
Seatpost
Crank

(All need greased and tightened FULLY. No grease if the BB is square taper)

Less likely are:
Wheels (spokes rubbing together when under pressure, rims flexing and rubbing against brake block when out of saddle)
Bottom bracket (loose, may need locking compound)
Chainring bolts (loose, friction between rings)
Stem (loose, movement around headset)


For the crank - would I need to remove it and grease the thread? Excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by square taper? If this is the case do I need any specialist tools to remove the crank?

Cheers.

Edit: Also, what grease do you fellas usually use?

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby Woodywmb » Sun Jan 13, 2013 23:32 pm

Loosen the crank bolts and take the cranks off to check the bottom bracket axle. Then replace the cranks and do the bolts up as tight as you can.
The top illustration here is of a square taper BB which should NOT be greased (because the lube allows the crank head to be forced too far along the axle. After time, and many refits, the crank goes in too far and the chain line-up is way out as a result). If it's the other style (image 2) - Isis or Octalink - feel free to ladle on the lube.
Use plenty muscle when tightening.

http://tinyurl.com/squareTAPER

http://tinyurl.com/isisOCTALINK

Edit: Any grease. They all do the same job unless you're doing some extreme cycling at the North Pole.

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Re: Creaking when climbing out of the saddle.

Postby Lowflying » Mon Jan 14, 2013 13:57 pm

This used to happen to me on my Trek when I upgraded the wheels. Took the whole bike apart trying to locate the problem, regreased and retightend everything. Took the bike out for a test run and it was still there :evil:

In the end I tracked the creaking and clicking down to the drop outs on the front fork. Solved the problem by wrapping the tips of the forks in electrical tape. Sounds like a bodge job but you can't see the tape and it completely solved the issue :D


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