Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

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Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby gloriousd » Wed Jan 09, 2013 13:33 pm

Hi All

I've a hardrock disc which i'm very happy with for my use other than the brakes. What are peoples thoughts on my plans, I've done a little research but am open to suggestions. I'm 6ft and 12 stone, I like to ride through the woods as quick as I can but nothing lunatic. As stated I've got a 2012 hardrock disc.

My planned upgrade path is below:

1. Change front caliper (lever and cable) to shimano M595 (can I keep my stock rotor?)
2. Change the rear to match if i'm happy with the front
3. Upgrade the font fork to Rock Shox or similar mild upgrade part suitable to accept a 180mm rotor - Looking for advise please budget is sub £100 if possible, happy to search ebay for a bargain!
4. Upgrade front rotor to 180mm - again advise on suitable part would be good.

Hope this is enough info and not been covered too many times before.

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby cooldad » Wed Jan 09, 2013 13:40 pm

Stick new Deore brakes on and I doubt you'll need new rotors. Add the money saved on rotors and adapters to the fork budget.
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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby Giraffoto » Wed Jan 09, 2013 14:06 pm

As stated above, keep the original rotors. I swapped to M596 Deores on my 2011 Hardrock and kept the same rotors as the original Avid BB5s had been gripping - you'll notice the improvement. Look for bargains on the Rockshox Recon range, they're pretty much the go-to choice for upgrading the Hardrock
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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby cooldad » Wed Jan 09, 2013 14:41 pm

Yup, get 596's.
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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby The Rookie » Wed Jan 09, 2013 15:19 pm

Or go used....My XT's cost less than new M596's and I recently got some air Recons for £72 off ebay......

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby gloriousd » Wed Jan 09, 2013 15:21 pm

Thanks chaps, am I right in thinking you can swap rotor size and keep the same calliper if I do decide I need to go bigger?

And is there a specific fork you'd recommend or will any of the rock shock range be a good upgrade?

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby cooldad » Wed Jan 09, 2013 15:27 pm

Bottom end RS are rubbish, like all bottom end forks.
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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby Plyphon » Wed Jan 09, 2013 15:55 pm

While what cooldad says above may or may not be true, what is true is that any fork you do choose will be fantastic over the stock SunTour fork.

I would stay away from the very very bottom end Rock Shox for - the XC something or other I think it's called.

I had a 2012 Hardrock Sport Disc up until very recently and I had stuck a Rock Shox Recon Silver TK for on it for £100 - completely transformed the bike (For the better).

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby Barrelmaker » Wed Jan 09, 2013 17:55 pm

I went from Avid Juicy 3's to M666 SLX brakes. Rotor wise i have an original Avid cleansweep and a Hope Sawblade, so rotors are very much interchangeable. The Shimano brakes are way way better than the Avids as well.

I second what people are saying about bottom end forks. I had a set of Dart 3's and they seized after about 4 month of gentle riding. If you can, see if you can get some Reba's on Ebay, might struggle to get them for the 100 quid mark though. There is a set on ebay right now with an hour left and the current price is 87 quid plus p&p. Who knows you might get lucky.

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby supersonic » Wed Jan 09, 2013 18:44 pm

XC32 and Recon Silver are great for the money.

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby cooldad » Wed Jan 09, 2013 18:52 pm

Just avoid anything undamped with the skinny 28mm stanchions.
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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby The Rookie » Thu Jan 10, 2013 08:47 am

Suntour Epicon and Raidon are OK, as are RS Tora (not really much of an upgrade, but a bit) and Recon Silver, Recon Gold saves a bit more weight by having less steel and more aluminium., RS Dart are no better (or maybe even worse) than your current Suntour XCT/M/R (whichever is fitted!).

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby worb68 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 08:57 am

OK, im new to all this. I have a Hardrock disk 2011 and have been debating upgrades or buying a new bike as the brakes and forks are not up to trail riding. IN fact there appalling!

Can you put all of the above into english for me so I can follow this thread as it makes for an intersting read but doesnt mean much to me the newbie.

Thank you very much.

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby cooldad » Thu Jan 10, 2013 09:18 am

Which bits don't make sense?
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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby The Rookie » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:47 am

My 15 year old daughter did Cannock FtD on some steel lowered elastomered RST's and Promax discs - MTFU!

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby Giraffoto » Thu Jan 10, 2013 14:33 pm

worb68 wrote:OK, im new to all this. I have a Hardrock disk 2011 . . . Can you put all of the above into english for me


1. Congratulations on your purchase, it marks you out as a gentleman of exquisite taste (see below)
2. Swap your heavy forks for a lighter Rockshox Recon
3. Swap your brakes for Shimano Deore
4. Enjoy your much lighter bike that doesn't need its brake pads adjusted after every ride
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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby worb68 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 15:27 pm

how much are these bits likely to cost? Where are the best places to get them from?

Whats the Stock rotor & front rotor?
Air Recon?

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby The Rookie » Thu Jan 10, 2013 16:18 pm

Cost? Look and find out like everyone else does.....

Stock rotor is what you bike has as stock/standard/original part Front rotor is the rotor on the front!

Air Recon, arecon fork that uses air as the spring medium, not a steel coil spring.

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby snoopsmydogg » Fri Jan 11, 2013 13:45 pm

The Beginner wrote:Cost? Look and find out like everyone else does.....

Stock rotor is what you bike has as stock/standard/original part Front rotor is the BRAKE DISC on the front wheel!

Air Recon, a fork made by ROCK SHOX to which the model is RECON that uses air as the spring medium, not a steel coil spring.



Edited just in case worb68 still struggled :wink:

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Re: Brake and Fork Upgrade for Hardrock Disc 2012

Postby Drzoidberg » Sat Jan 12, 2013 20:00 pm

Here you go £99.99 I don't think you will find a set of forks any cheaper
http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FORSRES80/r ... ut_poplock

Some good discounts on there at the minute, can get some fox forks for 300 or some Reba's for 250 which is good price - personally I would save the pennies wait 6 months and get a really decent set of forks

Keep on upgrading mate - my "project Hardrock 2010" became a SantaCruz Superlight last month - granted nothing left of the original bike but over time if you keep an eye out you can get some good deals online.


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