Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

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Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby HeatherMillsLeg » Mon Jan 21, 2013 12:44 pm

What are your's?

Here's mine. Add any info if you think it will help. Cheers.


1) - SPD pedals. IMO these are an absolute essential for road cycling and probably the best bang for buck in performance and pleasure upgrade you can get. I use these http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=3759 Shimano SPD M520 at £17.49 + cashback. Only reason I have changed them, to the exact same pedals is to get them in white! Think I flogged my black ones for about £12 but got to keep the cleats.

Obviously you need some SPD shoes. I got some MTB SPD shoes from CRC for £35 - simply for the fact that I like to be able to walk when I go out. If you shop around you can probably go all in for about £60 - honestly the best initial upgrade.

2) - Smaller cassette. My bike is complete entry level triple. It came with a 12 - 28 IIRC. Problem was I was spinning out way too much. This was the cheapest way for me to get more speed so I bought an 11-23 and it made a massive difference. 90% of the time the bike is ridden like a double but on those really steep hills I am glad of the small chainring.

3) - New wheels. TBH it would have taken me a long time to justify buying new wheels but I got another bike stolen and had to spend the insurance money. I got a Mavic Aksium rear wheel with the money and it did make a big difference to the responsiveness of the bike. As a repeat customer of CRC I got a £10 off voucher with minimum spend of £75. Low and behold they had the front matching wheel in their sale for around £65 so now have a full set.

4) New brakes and cables. My stock brakes were, I think "no name" and silver. They also rusted on the pivot springs. Bought some 105s in black and some new cables as again, they had rusted, from CRC. Excellent brakes - can easily endo on them!

Accessories.

1) Bottle cages and bottles - have never spent more than £4.50 on a cage or £3 on a bottle. Shop around. Amazon and Wiggle.

2) Windproof jacket - Dare 2 B from Rutland Cycling on Ebay £15

3) Waterproof and BREATHABLE jacket - as above but no need to spend more than £50

4) Overshoes - got mine from Planet X for a tenner

5) Gloves

6) Smart phone mount and various apps. I use Endomondo but pretty annoyed at their recent sneaky change. For the mount I use a RAM mount.

7) Bike stand and decent cleaning gear.


Am boring myself by now - sorry!

HTH someone anyway

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby Calpol » Mon Jan 21, 2013 13:50 pm

Decent list - the only thing I would not be without is my Garmin Edge 500. I find it a really useful device for motivating me and tracking my progress. Combined with Strava it have become indispensible.

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby mwf28 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:04 pm

Probadly covered the best upgrades & accessories for a beginner,But i hate to state the obvious,But what a about a Helmet !!!
The best upgrades/accessories from your list that i made when starting was indeed SPDs & shoes,But having read so many forum posts about the dangers of SPD pedals ,especially for the novice rider , i was a bit wary,But i was a bit luckly my first road bike ,a boardman race had toe clips and straps! So ! i was already used to be ready to withdraw/remove my feet or foot when stopping at trafffic lights etc...But was still a bit nervous about converting to SPDs, but it was one of the best and cheapest upgrades i have made,but i would recommend a set of shimano PD-530 pedals as they SPD on one side and normal pedal the other! Great for the novice for stopping and starting and trying to re-clip in at the same time (traffic lights) Plus they are great if you want to use your bike with normal shoes !

Second upgrade ,has to be wheels .it can make a massive difference ! I gained an extra 2-3 mph on my average speed!
Something youve missed is a good bike computer ,just a basic wireless helps a lot !

Good list though!

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby Vinnyc19 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:18 pm

New wheels definitely one of the 1st upgrades

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby RubbishCyclist » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:21 pm

Decent tyres are the best upgrade ive made, and SPD SL pedals and decent shoes

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby Calpol » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:22 pm

mwf28 wrote:
Second upgrade ,has to be wheels .it can make a massive difference ! I gained an extra 2-3 mph on my average speed!


Good list though!


Really? All other factors equal you reckon wheels gave you a 2-3mph ave speed increase? Where the stock wheels rubbing on the brake? If this is possible then I will be changing my Fulcrum 5 s tomorrow! :)

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby Simon Masterson » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:35 pm

A new wheelset won't make you 2mph faster; particularly not an inexpensive upgrade set. There's a generous smattering of psychology in play here. ;)

But I wouldn't bother with a waterproof jacket; high chance of boil-in-the-bag if you're working hard. My winter jersey dries out pretty quickly.

Also, are you really spinning out your 12-28 cassette or do you find the closer ratios of 11-25 preferable? I would never recommend any beginner who lives near any hills to assume not to use a 28 cog. By the time you need to replace the cassette you will hopefully know what best to replace it with; conversely beginners need to build strength and fitness.
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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby HeatherMillsLeg » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:41 pm

Calpol wrote:
mwf28 wrote:
Second upgrade ,has to be wheels .it can make a massive difference ! I gained an extra 2-3 mph on my average speed!


Good list though!


Really? All other factors equal you reckon wheels gave you a 2-3mph ave speed increase? Where the stock wheels rubbing on the brake? If this is possible then I will be changing my Fulcrum 5 s tomorrow! :)


Doubt it. The wheels probably knew where they were.

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby HeatherMillsLeg » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:45 pm

Simon Masterson wrote:A new wheelset won't make you 2mph faster; particularly not an inexpensive upgrade set. There's a generous smattering of psychology in play here. ;)

But I wouldn't bother with a waterproof jacket; high chance of boil-in-the-bag if you're working hard. My winter jersey dries out pretty quickly.


That's cool bro - do you have any advice for a beginner?

Apologies

Cheers
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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby Simon Masterson » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:52 pm

Or, you're choosing between a jersey that wicks well and dries quickly but lets rain through, or a jacket that keeps rain at bay but makes you sweaty and wicks poorly.

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby Calpol » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:53 pm

HeatherMillsLeg wrote:
Simon Masterson wrote:A new wheelset won't make you 2mph faster; particularly not an inexpensive upgrade set. There's a generous smattering of psychology in play here. ;)

But I wouldn't bother with a waterproof jacket; high chance of boil-in-the-bag if you're working hard. My winter jersey dries out pretty quickly.


That's cool bro - do you have any advice for a beginner?

Or are you just suggesting that beginners go out in the wet and wear a winter jersey like a hard man like you?

Not the most helpful post is it?

But glad you feel your comments are helpful!?

Do you know what a twad is? - cos you are a massive one.

Cheers

Actually to be fair on Simon I didn't see anything wrong with his post. He is right about a lot of rain jackets - my sleek Castelli job is pure boil in the bag. With hindsight I wouldn't have bought it. So no real need to insult him. Lets keep it friendly.

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby mwf28 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 14:54 pm

I forgot to mention i upgraded from mavic cxp 22s to shimano RS80s c24 ,it made a big difference ,maybe in my mind Yes maybe not! So i rode faster! they made me ride faster on average over the same routes! Less effort !

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby Hoopdriver » Mon Jan 21, 2013 15:14 pm

HeatherMillsLeg wrote:
Simon Masterson wrote:A new wheelset won't make you 2mph faster; particularly not an inexpensive upgrade set. There's a generous smattering of psychology in play here. ;)

But I wouldn't bother with a waterproof jacket; high chance of boil-in-the-bag if you're working hard. My winter jersey dries out pretty quickly.


That's cool bro - do you have any advice for a beginner?

Or are you just suggesting that beginners go out in the wet and wear a winter jersey like a hard man like you?

Not the most helpful post is it?

But glad you feel your comments are helpful!?

Do you know what a twad is? - cos you are a massive one.

Cheers

What an ass you must be

That was a pretty reasonable post. A new wheel set will not make a beginner 2mph faster.

I myself would go for a waterproof jacket but the suggestion that a winter weight jersey will keep you warm while pedalling and dry out later is still a reasonable one - especially since the OP was hoping to find a breathable and waterproof jacket for £50 or less, something that is just not likely to happen. Most of this winter I have worn a water resistant softshell to very good effect; it gets wet, it dries out later, I'm comfortable in the mean time.

Your name calling and sarcasm at the close of your post says a lot about you and your puerile mindset I am afraid.
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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby DaxPlusPlus » Mon Jan 21, 2013 15:16 pm

Calpol wrote:
HeatherMillsLeg wrote:
Simon Masterson wrote:A new wheelset won't make you 2mph faster; particularly not an inexpensive upgrade set. There's a generous smattering of psychology in play here. ;)

But I wouldn't bother with a waterproof jacket; high chance of boil-in-the-bag if you're working hard. My winter jersey dries out pretty quickly.


That's cool bro - do you have any advice for a beginner?

Or are you just suggesting that beginners go out in the wet and wear a winter jersey like a hard man like you?

Not the most helpful post is it?

But glad you feel your comments are helpful!?

Do you know what a twad is? - cos you are a massive one.

Cheers

Actually to be fair on Simon I didn't see anything wrong with his post. He is right about a lot of rain jackets - my sleek Castelli job is pure boil in the bag. With hindsight I wouldn't have bought it. So no real need to insult him. Lets keep it friendly.


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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby Charlie Potatoes » Mon Jan 21, 2013 15:32 pm

HeatherMillsLeg wrote:
Simon Masterson wrote:A new wheelset won't make you 2mph faster; particularly not an inexpensive upgrade set. There's a generous smattering of psychology in play here. ;)

But I wouldn't bother with a waterproof jacket; high chance of boil-in-the-bag if you're working hard. My winter jersey dries out pretty quickly.


That's cool bro - do you have any advice for a beginner?

Or are you just suggesting that beginners go out in the wet and wear a winter jersey like a hard man like you?

Not the most helpful post is it?

But glad you feel your comments are helpful!?

Do you know what a twad is? - cos you are a massive one.

Cheers


I don't know what a twad is. I just googled it and the Urban Dictionary gives six definitions
here......http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TWAD
Any chance that you could clarify which definition that you mean?

BTW Simon often gives advice to beginners but I guess insulting him isn't the best way to get it though.
Disagree with him by all means (I sometimes do :) ) but the insults belong in the playground
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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby RubbishCyclist » Mon Jan 21, 2013 15:43 pm

Calpol wrote:
HeatherMillsLeg wrote:
Simon Masterson wrote:A new wheelset won't make you 2mph faster; particularly not an inexpensive upgrade set. There's a generous smattering of psychology in play here. ;)

But I wouldn't bother with a waterproof jacket; high chance of boil-in-the-bag if you're working hard. My winter jersey dries out pretty quickly.


That's cool bro - do you have any advice for a beginner?

Or are you just suggesting that beginners go out in the wet and wear a winter jersey like a hard man like you?

Not the most helpful post is it?

But glad you feel your comments are helpful!?

Do you know what a twad is? - cos you are a massive one.

Cheers

Actually to be fair on Simon I didn't see anything wrong with his post. He is right about a lot of rain jackets - my sleek Castelli job is pure boil in the bag. With hindsight I wouldn't have bought it. So no real need to insult him. Lets keep it friendly.


Yeh very unnecessary, the guys advice is good.....unless its torrential i dont wear anything waterproof as long as im dry. The OP is bang out of order!

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby mwf28 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 15:53 pm

Jeez! Its friendly around here ? I can appriecate everyones view and comments posted ,This is the beginners section,Some people that post in this section are new forum members and let say it novices....probadly not that clued up or just nervous about posting for the first couple of times!
I joined to gain knowledge ,to learn ,to talk about road biking, the thing i enjoy most in life at the moment,The thing i want to get better at,even at my late matutre age?
I came here with an open mind ,to talk other like minded people about biking....Guess i am a little taken aback by some attitudes of a minority.
I Did increase my average speed with upgraded wheels,On average 1-2 mph faster ,,,,I am sorry if that upsets people or find it hard to believe ,it did ! Maybe it might be the EPO ...kicking in ?
Maybe i had gained a little more strength since my last ride over the same route, Who the feek knows ,what factors were involved ,but i ride faster with my shimanos than i did with the mavics!

I quite like it here ! Hard work like an 1" 1/2 hour session on the turbo .

Finish post with a meaningful quotation " THE EXPERT AT ANYTHING WAS ONCE A BEGINNER"

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby keef66 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 16:03 pm

My advice to a beginner would be:

Buy a decent pump, multitool, tyre levers and spare tubes and always carry them. Practice changing a rear tube at home in the warm / dry / daylight. Better than your first time being at night in the rain.

Instead of a waterproof I'd reccommend a softshell like my Gore Phantom. Was out for nearly 2 hours in the blizzard on Sunday; nice and warm and not a hint of clamminess. More than £50 though, but well worth it.

Buy the best pair of padded bibshorts you can afford. Ditto winter bibtights.

Replace wheels, cassettes etc only as they break / wear out. By then you'll have a better idea about what you want to replace them with. If you really must 'upgrade' your new bike, treat it to some better tyres.

If you cycle in the winter fit some mudguards and treat your feet to some Woolie Boolie socks and some cheap neoprene overshoes. Also get some decent lights.

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby Pross » Mon Jan 21, 2013 16:13 pm

HeatherMillsLeg wrote:What are your's?

Here's mine. Add any info if you think it will help. Cheers.


2) - Smaller cassette. My bike is complete entry level triple. It came with a 12 - 28 IIRC. Problem was I was spinning out way too much. This was the cheapest way for me to get more speed so I bought an 11-23 and it made a massive difference. 90% of the time the bike is ridden like a double but on those really steep hills I am glad of the small chainring.

6) Smart phone mount and various apps. I use Endomondo but pretty annoyed at their recent sneaky change. For the mount I use a RAM mount.


Generally pretty good list but I'd take issue on these two points. A standard triple will normally have a 52 or 53 tooth chainring fitted. If you can 'spin out' on that with a 12t sprocket you are quite some cyclist, I barely ever use my 52 x 12 even when racing. Even with a compact with 50t chainring this whole 'spinning out' that beginners regularly talk about is b***ocks, you just need to learn to pedal faster which will ultimately be a greater benefit than changing the cassette.

I certainly wouldn't class a smart phone mount as a decent upgrade or accessory. I'd rather just fit a cheap bike computer to the bike and leave my phone well protected in my back pocket.

One thing missing off the list I would say is a decent set of tyres. Pound for pound probably the best upgrade you can make.

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Re: Best upgrades, accessories and purchases for a BEGINNER

Postby mwf28 » Mon Jan 21, 2013 16:24 pm

+1 to KEEF66 ,
Yes , Thats the best advice so far! one that i forgot to put in my list....A small lightweight pump ,a couple of spare tubes,Some cheap latex gloves ,,so baby wipes ,,,or something simular ,thoose little wipes that you get with your food from fast food places ,Of course! I never touch fast food mmh!!!cough!!
I always carry a spare tube , latex gloves ,wipes ,mulitool with me on every ride ,,I once got a flat 20 miles away from home ,4 miles from the nearest village ,no punture kit ,no money ,I did have my pump with me though , Doh! FACE PALM!!! Its quicker riding 4 miles than walking 4 miles !
You learn very quckly!!


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