Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Come and join in the banter: discuss here anything you want, whether bike related or not!
User avatar
Ben6899
Posts: 4921
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 19:49 pm

Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby Ben6899 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 18:51 pm

Do you think I'll be able to sneak onto an East Coast train with an assembled frame/fork/seatpost, without booking a bike spot?

I'm just wary that my chance of success could well be at the mercy of an officious little shite in an East Coast overcoat.
Ben

Bikes: Starley JKS R1 | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
Islington CC: http://www.islington.cc

User avatar
Rolf F
Posts: 13582
Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 09:29 am

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby Rolf F » Tue Jan 22, 2013 19:19 pm

Yes - without wheels it's hardly a functioning bike. You should be able to get it in the overhead racks for a start.
Faster than a tent.......

User avatar
Ben6899
Posts: 4921
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 19:49 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby Ben6899 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 09:42 am

These were my thoughts, Rolf. At least nobody has come on here to tell me I'm living in Cloud Cuckoo land!
Ben

Bikes: Starley JKS R1 | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
Islington CC: http://www.islington.cc

User avatar
rjsterry
Posts: 8507
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 18:26 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby rjsterry » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:16 am

O/H rack might be a stretch, unless it's a compact frame with the seatpost removed

http://www.eastcoast.co.uk/on-board-our-trains/baggage-and-pets/luggage/
1997 Giant Peloton 7200 - FCN 4 (5 if it looks like rain)
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
1980s BSA 10sp

"Be there, eat sausages, gain ultimate respect"

User avatar
Ben6899
Posts: 4921
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 19:49 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby Ben6899 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:04 pm

'Standard' 56cm frame. I'll remove the seatpost.

Its width is less than 30cm. Check.
Its height is less than 70cm. Check.

Its length... probably a touch over 90cm. 56cm TT plus seat stays. I'll reverse the fork to remove any problem associated with the rake.

Hmmm
Ben

Bikes: Starley JKS R1 | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
Islington CC: http://www.islington.cc

User avatar
WGWarburton
Posts: 1842
Joined: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:07 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby WGWarburton » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:13 pm

Ben6899 wrote:'Standard' 56cm frame. I'll remove the seatpost.

Its width is less than 30cm. Check.
Its height is less than 70cm. Check.

Its length... probably a touch over 90cm. 56cm TT plus seat stays. I'll reverse the fork to remove any problem associated with the rake.

Hmmm


Unless you're confident the train will be quiet(!) I would be tempted to brace the forks and rear triangle.
You're probably on top of this already but a couple of lengths of, say, broom-handle (or old axles) taped in place to prevent bending would be wise.

Cheers,
W.

User avatar
Ben6899
Posts: 4921
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 19:49 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby Ben6899 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:17 pm

WGWarburton wrote:
Ben6899 wrote:'Standard' 56cm frame. I'll remove the seatpost.

Its width is less than 30cm. Check.
Its height is less than 70cm. Check.

Its length... probably a touch over 90cm. 56cm TT plus seat stays. I'll reverse the fork to remove any problem associated with the rake.

Hmmm


Unless you're confident the train will be quiet(!) I would be tempted to brace the forks and rear triangle.
You're probably on top of this already but a couple of lengths of, say, broom-handle (or old axles) taped in place to prevent bending would be wise.

Cheers,
W.


Yup, but thanks for the heads up anyway. I have the widgets that came with the last frame I bought, so I can use those.

PS. it won't be quiet; it'll be a sh1tfight!
Ben

Bikes: Starley JKS R1 | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
Islington CC: http://www.islington.cc

User avatar
MajorMantra
Posts: 2038
Joined: Thu Oct 23, 2008 21:29 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby MajorMantra » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:36 pm

Put a sheet of plastic or a big bag around it. Then it goes from an illicit bike to 'just another bit of luggage'.

User avatar
Gazzaputt
Posts: 3805
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2005 13:43 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby Gazzaputt » Thu Jan 24, 2013 09:34 am

I'm traveling on East Coast in a couple of weeks with a bike bag. Not sure if this has to go in the guards van will ask when I get to the station.

tetm
Posts: 533
Joined: Mon Nov 14, 2011 13:08 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby tetm » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:01 pm

Wrap it in bubble wrap and sheet so it becomes generic luggage, but with bracing between the drop outs (please!)

Last frame I had delivered didn't have the bracing and when it arrived the front forks had an OLN of about 30mm. Not best pleased.

User avatar
Roastie
Posts: 1877
Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 21:06 pm
Contact:

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby Roastie » Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:17 pm

tetm wrote:Wrap it in bubble wrap and sheet so it becomes generic luggage, but with bracing between the drop outs (please!)

Last frame I had delivered didn't have the bracing and when it arrived the front forks had an OLN of about 30mm. Not best pleased.

Yup, and if you are using the plastic widgets that the frame came with, please tape them in place so they can't fall out (even if you wrap the whole lot up anyway).

User avatar
daviesee
Posts: 6445
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 18:37 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby daviesee » Thu Jan 24, 2013 13:16 pm

MajorMantra wrote:Put a sheet of plastic or a big bag around it. Then it goes from an illicit bike to 'just another bit of luggage'.

+1
Big bag = luggage.
None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.

User avatar
Ben6899
Posts: 4921
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 19:49 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby Ben6899 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 14:04 pm

tetm wrote:Wrap it in bubble wrap and sheet so it becomes generic luggage, but with bracing between the drop outs (please!)

Last frame I had delivered didn't have the bracing and when it arrived the front forks had an OLN of about 30mm. Not best pleased.


Don't worry. :)
Ben

Bikes: Starley JKS R1 | Gios Megalite | Dolan Preffisio | Giant Bowery '76
Islington CC: http://www.islington.cc

User avatar
rjsterry
Posts: 8507
Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 18:26 pm

Re: Taking a frame/fork/seatpost on East Coast

Postby rjsterry » Thu Jan 24, 2013 14:16 pm

daviesee wrote:
MajorMantra wrote:Put a sheet of plastic or a big bag around it. Then it goes from an illicit bike to 'just another bit of luggage'.

+1
Big bag = luggage.


I think above the sizes in that link, it doesn't matter whether it's a bike or not, they can still make you put it in the guard's van if they think it is causing an obstruction.
1997 Giant Peloton 7200 - FCN 4 (5 if it looks like rain)
1985 Mercian King of Mercia - work in progress (Hah! Who am I kidding?)
1980s BSA 10sp

"Be there, eat sausages, gain ultimate respect"


Return to “Commuting Chat”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: adambruntlett, antonyfromoz, itboffin, nikbrown and 11 guests