Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

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Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby dmclite-3.0 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 09:49 am

Seems there is a lot of vitriol over LA and doping which I fully understand. What I don't get is that if you have a slightly different views or opinion from the majority, seems people get caned for it. Now I know posting on a public forum you are asking for the subject to be opened completely, just saying that when people on the forum say LA bullied and intimidated other people through his careerand that one of the reasons we hate him, are they themselves bullying and intimidating posters who offer a different take on LA.

Only asking through my experience on here, I know people will post on this and show me where I am wrong, but I am genuinely interested in a bit of retrospective viewing of the posting trends on this subject.
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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby mididoctors » Thu Jan 24, 2013 09:58 am

saving face..sometimes your better off just going "yeah you were right I was wrong"

the internet has no restraint so bullying is common
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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby Rick Chasey » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:00 am

Most people who aren't frothing don't tend to post.

He's a panto villain and people get a bit overexcited.

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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby ddraver » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:01 am

Not angry - just very disappointed...

You re not going to convince me he's been at all hard done by though. If he tells all to USADA, I'd be happy to let him bu**er off and not bother anyone again...
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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby TheStone » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:03 am

Was anyone surprised? All this stuff has been out there for years.

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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby TMR » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:05 am

Aah. Just what we need. Another thread on LA. FFS.
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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby Monkeypump » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:11 am

Good point, and in answer to your question, I'm not in a frothing rage at all.

As far as I'm concerned, he was a cheat in a field of cheats (with a very few exceptions). He just happened to be the guy who was a better racer AND a better cheater than the others so came out on top.

Someone on here recently said something along the lines of "he is hated so much because not because of what he did, but because he was an a55hole about it". I think there is some truth in that, but my take is he was just single-minded and swept all others aside. You can't be 'part' single-minded, and he kinda sums up the all-or-nothing mindset. You can't deny his unflinching determination to win, even if you question his methods.

Without going into the can of worms that is LiveStrong, there is no doubt he got cycling into the public eye more than any other rider and got lots of new people riding bikes.

The whole LA thing has divided opinion on here for years. With his admission of drug use, his detractors will feel vindicated and won't hesitate to ram the "told you so" message down everyone's throat. Those of us that accept it but don't want to see him hung, drawn and quartered will always be viewed as uninformed fanboys. But, hey, that's another thing I don't get in a frothing rage about!

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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby Pross » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:15 am

I'm not in a frothing rage. I'm just glad he's finally been caught and sanctioned and finally confessed (whatever his reasons). Time to forget him but learn from the experience and try to get the current and future generations to ride clean. I'm not naiive enough to think for a minute that we will ever have a 100% clean peloton but as long as the majority are (and in particular the big winners) I will be happy. But anything will be a big improvement over the 'EPO years'. I'd also like to see some of the non-riding people who were involved brought to book.

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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby Trev The Rev » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:17 am

dmclite-3.0 wrote:Seems there is a lot of vitriol over LA and doping which I fully understand. What I don't get is that if you have a slightly different views or opinion from the majority, seems people get caned for it. Now I know posting on a public forum you are asking for the subject to be opened completely, just saying that when people on the forum say LA bullied and intimidated other people through his careerand that one of the reasons we hate him, are they themselves bullying and intimidating posters who offer a different take on LA.

Only asking through my experience on here, I know people will post on this and show me where I am wrong, but I am genuinely interested in a bit of retrospective viewing of the posting trends on this subject.


That is something which is exaggerated on forums. Express a different opinion to the majority or even a small minority of senior posters who impose their views rigorously, and you are labelled a troll and abused. When you will not be bullied they try to get you banned.

For some reason people take things personally on forums - people need to lighten up and enjoy the banter.

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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby ddraver » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:23 am

No Trev, you re not a troll, you re an idiot...
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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby lostboysaint » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:30 am

Pross wrote:I'm not in a frothing rage. I'm just glad he's finally been caught and sanctioned and finally confessed (whatever his reasons). Time to forget him but learn from the experience and try to get the current and future generations to ride clean. I'm not naiive enough to think for a minute that we will ever have a 100% clean peloton but as long as the majority are (and in particular the big winners) I will be happy. But anything will be a big improvement over the 'EPO years'. I'd also like to see some of the non-riding people who were involved brought to book.


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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby dmclite-3.0 » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:39 am

The Mad Rapper wrote:Aah. Just what we need. Another thread on LA. FFS.


Don't post on it then. Ignore it.FFS
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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby TailWindHome » Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:48 am

Most people are beyond the frothy rage stage now.

His mocking apology to Betsy Andrieu was f*cking despicable though, the rest is bygones.
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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby Danlikesbikes » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:11 am

I'm not. He is a convicted drugs cheat with a life time ban. He was bit of an ars* too, OK slight understatement, a right ars*.

Lets move on and enjoy this years racing, rather than backwards at not even a has been.
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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:18 am

These things were pretty much known since the year 2000... so I really don't understand all this outrage... there are lots of bigots around and a few living in cuckooland... :twisted:

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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby Squaggles » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:19 am

It shows the dangers of the hero worship of one man

over the top hero worship before , over the top anger now

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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby TMR » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:28 am

dmclite-3.0 wrote:
The Mad Rapper wrote:Aah. Just what we need. Another thread on LA. FFS.


Don't post on it then. Ignore it.FFS


Shut it n00b. Just keep the LA posts to the LA thread, it's not rocket science.
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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby dougzz » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:31 am

Rick Chasey wrote:Most people who aren't frothing don't tend to post.
He's a panto villain and people get a bit overexcited.


Oh no they don't..............

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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby fidbod » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:48 am

Rick Chasey wrote:Most people who aren't frothing don't tend to post.



^^^ This

he is a very naughty boy - whilst I would like to see the outcome of a full and frank disclosure from LA I am largely disinterested. Hence the almost total absence from the LA mega thread.

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Re: Anybody not in frothing rage over LA ?

Postby pat1cp » Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:55 am

Why did the IOC go to the bother of taking his bronze medal off him. Have you seen who was on those podiums ? It's like a dopage who's who's.......


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