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Tool to tighten cassette

Postby p1tse » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:59 am

Are there cheap options?

Having had evans cycles price match wiggle for one at £20 for a cassette I need , as they are local I then asked can you tighten it up for me. Yes but minimum labour £11.50
Come on its just to tighten it up!

So now looking to possibly purchase at wiggle and get a tool to do it myself but don't want to spend much, options?

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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby SmoggySteve » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:10 pm

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Park-Tool-Lockr ... 689&sr=8-2

This is pretty much all you need plus an adjustable wrench if you have one.

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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby Rolf F » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:16 pm

SmoggySteve wrote:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Park-Tool-Lockring-Remover-Hyperglide/dp/B000WY8LNC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359547689&sr=8-2

This is pretty much all you need plus an adjustable wrench if you have one.


I wouldn't recommend the Park one. I bought one recently as I thought it would be more durable than the cheap one I had before. It wasn't. It was as soft as the cheap ones but the design was worse and it failed on first use. The cheap one had a square slot in the back to fit a socket - the Park one has a similarly sized hole - but it's round! :roll:

My LBS confirmed that the Park stuff is a bit over-rated and recommended Tacx but I've not investigated those yet.
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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby Yossie » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:30 pm

Just google the one that you need and note where its from when it flashes up. Then do a search for any discount codes. Or borrow one. Or steal one. Or make one. Or buy a new bike with a cassette that isn't loose.
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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby Rolf F » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:35 pm

And if you haven't got the old cassette off, then you'll need a chainwhip as well.
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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby ricky1980 » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:43 pm

try another LBS that will probably do it for you for free...these sort of work takes literally seconds.
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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby p1tse » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:50 pm

ricky1980 wrote:try another LBS that will probably do it for you for free...these sort of work takes literally seconds.


I know, having watched you tube clip. It's literally just fitting as got a spare wheel with hub.

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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby dwanes » Wed Jan 30, 2013 13:08 pm

My friendly LBS was asking £5 which is reasonable, don't see why they should do it for free.
But instead of that, I bought the required tools off him and for Free got him to teach me how to do it correctly whilst changing it in the process. At least i've now got the tools and knowledge to do it in future.

I have found the scruffier the shop, the more friendly and accommodating they tend to be on issues like this, so shop around.

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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby SmoggySteve » Wed Jan 30, 2013 13:12 pm

Rolf F wrote:
SmoggySteve wrote:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Park-Tool-Lockring-Remover-Hyperglide/dp/B000WY8LNC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359547689&sr=8-2

This is pretty much all you need plus an adjustable wrench if you have one.


I wouldn't recommend the Park one. I bought one recently as I thought it would be more durable than the cheap one I had before. It wasn't. It was as soft as the cheap ones but the design was worse and it failed on first use. The cheap one had a square slot in the back to fit a socket - the Park one has a similarly sized hole - but it's round! :roll:

My LBS confirmed that the Park stuff is a bit over-rated and recommended Tacx but I've not investigated those yet.


Never had a problem with park tools, Surprised your failed to soon. I did prefer to have an all in one wrench before I saw the light and moved to Campagnolo. Still both have served me well when serving friends bikes.

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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby Rolf F » Wed Jan 30, 2013 13:57 pm

SmoggySteve wrote:
Rolf F wrote:
SmoggySteve wrote:http://www.amazon.co.uk/Park-Tool-Lockring-Remover-Hyperglide/dp/B000WY8LNC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1359547689&sr=8-2

This is pretty much all you need plus an adjustable wrench if you have one.


I wouldn't recommend the Park one. I bought one recently as I thought it would be more durable than the cheap one I had before. It wasn't. It was as soft as the cheap ones but the design was worse and it failed on first use. The cheap one had a square slot in the back to fit a socket - the Park one has a similarly sized hole - but it's round! :roll:

My LBS confirmed that the Park stuff is a bit over-rated and recommended Tacx but I've not investigated those yet.


Never had a problem with park tools, Surprised your failed to soon. I did prefer to have an all in one wrench before I saw the light and moved to Campagnolo. Still both have served me well when serving friends bikes.


So was I - and disappointed. Other Park stuff has been fine but this one was no better than the Lifu one I'd broken before - except worse as I said due to the pointlessly poor design. It didn't seem to be any more accurately machined either (so unneccessarily slack in the slots) and the LBS reckoned it wasn't partcularly tight (I torque to 50nm but had left the cassette on for a year or so though little use from the bike).

I think Park stuff is OK but it isn't the bike equivalent of Snap On by any stretch!
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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby SmoggySteve » Wed Jan 30, 2013 14:06 pm

Snap-on, wish they made bike tools. life time guarantee on all parts. Shame they were so damn expensive in the first place. Still, I guess I will have to avoid that socket, Seems such a shame that the simplest of tools could be so badly made.

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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby arlowood » Wed Jan 30, 2013 15:00 pm

Just make sure you get one with a squared aperture that will take a 1/4inch socket set drive bar. This will give you a much more secure basis to apply any force when removing an old lockring that may be seized. The open ended spanner option is just too risky IMHO.

Also if you can get one like this:-

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=10183

the addition of the central spindle also helps to locate and stabilise the tool when you are applying pressure to it in loosening or tightening mode.

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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby SmoggySteve » Wed Jan 30, 2013 15:07 pm

http://www.amazon.co.uk/BBB-Lock-Casset ... 367&sr=8-1

I prefer these type now as they have a ratchet built into it. Not necessarily this brand.

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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby Rolf F » Wed Jan 30, 2013 15:12 pm

arlowood wrote:Just make sure you get one with a squared aperture that will take a 1/4inch socket set drive bar. This will give you a much more secure basis to apply any force when removing an old lockring that may be seized. The open ended spanner option is just too risky IMHO.

Also if you can get one like this:-

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=10183

the addition of the central spindle also helps to locate and stabilise the tool when you are applying pressure to it in loosening or tightening mode.


This is exactly like the old 'cheapo' one was and exactly how the Park one wasn't - both in terms of the spindle and aperture.
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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby nicklouse » Wed Jan 30, 2013 15:58 pm

my Parktools one and shimano one must be 6 and 12 years old respectivly and both still work as well as they did when new.

do have a cheap one as well due to the need to fit disc brakes which the others dont do on some hubs. but that does not get used much.

the spindle is great ubtill you get a hub that it does not work with.
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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby thegreatdivide » Wed Jan 30, 2013 16:48 pm

Don't buy a Tacx cassette tool - just got a refund through for the one that disintegarted on the first turn! It looks like it's made from tin foil.

The BBB one is a solid wee bugg3r.
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Re: Tool to tighten cassette

Postby Rolf F » Wed Jan 30, 2013 18:51 pm

thegreatdivide wrote:Don't buy a Tacx cassette tool - just got a refund through for the one that disintegarted on the first turn! It looks like it's made from tin foil.

The BBB one is a solid wee bugg3r.


Could be a good call taa! I've never yet regretted a BBB purchase.
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