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Evs78
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Garmin advice

Postby Evs78 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 20:18 pm

I am hoping someone on here might be able to steer me in the right direction as I want a garmin but now have (at least) 4 options. My head is telling me to go for the 800, which at handtec would set me back just short of £300 with premium hrm and cadence sensor (which I'm convinced I want).

Other options are 500 (red black version at £188), 510 (not sure it's worth the extra at £260) and 810 (at £376 its over budget really but could stretch if I can find a good reason to).

Currently using iPhone with garmin fit but weak gps signal means I keep getting dodgy speed readings (dont think I'm quite hitting 100mph). Think I need nav but again not sure if its an unnecessary luxury.

Any thoughts greatly appreciated, particularly on the benefits/weaknesses of the new models.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Supermurph09 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 20:23 pm

Having used my iphone (running Strava) for the first 4 months riding combined with a cateye computer with cadence I can say with alot of confidence that having switched to the Garmin 500 (HRM+Cadence) I'm very pleased. Garmin sits nice and snug on the bars instead of a clunky looking iphone in its case. No need for 2 devices either. The Garmin Connect software is very good and you can easily upload to Strava using it. I've seen the 510 is now out but in all honestly as you said I'm not sure its worth the extra.

You can get the Garmin with HRM + Cadence for £192 from Leisure Lakes. Highly recommended.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Evs78 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 20:27 pm

Cheers, the £120 saving over the 800 is tempting as most of my riding is local, but thinking of doing a few sportives this year and like the idea of uploading routes, etc.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby c40nl12 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 20:28 pm

+1 for the Garmin 500, i got one for Christmas and I think it's great. It's not much better to read when out on the bike but the information gathering and downloading to Garmin Connect and Strava when you get home is excellent. I agree with Supermurph09, i used to use my iphone for recording and it was patchy with GPS and sat in ,y back pocket so not much use when on a ride, downloading to strava involved sending e-mails and transferring files not much fun. As the Edge 500 has multiple screens available i have one set of data for when I'm on the road and one set when I'm on the rollers. I would recommend the Edge 500, some great deals to be had as well.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Supermurph09 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 20:31 pm

I also think that as mentioned by c40nl12 you can use the multiple screens dependent on what you are doing. Courses, workouts etc, so many functions I've not fully explored yet, this device will just get better and better imo.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby c40nl12 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 20:32 pm

On Amazon for £169 including cadence and heart rate sensors.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Supermurph09 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 20:37 pm

c40nl12 wrote:On Amazon for £169 including cadence and heart rate sensors.


Head straight to Amazon!! No brainer!!! :D

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Evs78 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 21:02 pm

Great advice and now moving towards the 500 but sadly the ribble gf would look wrong with a blue 500, so don't think the amazon deal is an option. Still looks a good deal at £188.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Carl_P » Thu Feb 07, 2013 21:17 pm

I'm looking to upgrade to the 800 in the spring. I won't bother about the HRM and cadence sensor initially, it's the creating routes around areas I'm not wholly familiar with I'll find more useful. Knowing what your heart rate is when your lost is not particularly helpful.
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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Evs78 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 22:23 pm

To be honest Carl, I'm a data geek, just love looking at pointless graphs so hrm and cadence are essential. Still like the idea of the 800 though, but edging towards the 500 (for today).

Just need to get it bought. My main fear with 500 is the need to upgrade still nagging me once I've bought it!
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Re: Garmin advice

Postby lc1981 » Thu Feb 07, 2013 22:41 pm

I recently bought a 500 after lots of deliberation. I thought I might need an 800 for the mapping, but the 500's course feature is fine for the navigation I need. As long as you can download or plot the route in advance and don't need to make changes to the route on the move, it's all you need.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby patrickf » Fri Feb 08, 2013 08:55 am

The first question to ask is do you want mapping? I.e. are you likely to want to follow a course with turn-by-turn directions?

If so then that only leaves the 800 and the 810.

Next, do you need to be able to upload your rides directly from the Garmin via Bluetooth on your phone? If you can live with uploading via a computer then you can discount the 810 and largely the 510. The 510 does add a colour screen over the 500 though.

I bought a 800 in the end and loaded it with OSM maps. I found that even for local(ish) rides I was riding more areas I didn't really know and I could plan some good rides before I went out. I wouldn't want to be without it now.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby lc1981 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:36 am

patrickf wrote:I bought a 800 in the end and loaded it with OSM maps. I found that even for local(ish) rides I was riding more areas I didn't really know and I could plan some good rides before I went out. I wouldn't want to be without it now.


You can plan routes before you head out with the 500 too. The thing that the 800 adds is a map that you can consult when you're on the move.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby wishitwasallflat » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:41 am

Got myself a 500 with HR and Cadence for my 50th birthday present - very happy with it - think hard what do you need mapping for and would you miss the extra money spent on an 800 (doesn't sound like anyone but Garmin think much of 510 or 810) - those are decisions only you can make :D

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby patrickf » Fri Feb 08, 2013 22:32 pm

lc1981 wrote:
patrickf wrote:I bought a 800 in the end and loaded it with OSM maps. I found that even for local(ish) rides I was riding more areas I didn't really know and I could plan some good rides before I went out. I wouldn't want to be without it now.


You can plan routes before you head out with the 500 too. The thing that the 800 adds is a map that you can consult when you're on the move.

I know the 500 gives you the breadcrumb trail but I love having the visual turn by turn navigation. Again, it depends on where priorities are; of you only want to follow courses occasionally then the 500 or 510 could be fine.

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Evs78 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 23:19 pm

Thanks to everyone for the advice. Have gone for the 500 with hrm and cadence. Preferred the look (red/black) and like the fact that its small and don't think I will ever really need the turn-by-turn nav. Saved myself £110 as a result!

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Supermurph09 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 12:43 pm

A great purchase! Enjoy!

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Re: Garmin advice

Postby sigorman85 » Sat Feb 09, 2013 20:39 pm

Was using strava on the iPhone not ideal got fed up with signal loss and silly mph I got the edge 810 and very happy with it still think I'm not using it to its full potential but yeah it's a good bit of kit
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Re: Garmin advice

Postby Evs78 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 17:32 pm

First day or two on the garmin and I'm convinced I will never use its full potential but it does what I need it to and a lot more. I'm not even sure what half the functions mean and there seems to be %s of %s on some!!!

Thanks again for all the advice - much appreciated.
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Re: Garmin advice

Postby jordan_217 » Mon Feb 11, 2013 21:08 pm

Evs78 wrote:Thanks to everyone for the advice. Have gone for the 500 with hrm and cadence. Preferred the look (red/black) and like the fact that its small and don't think I will ever really need the turn-by-turn nav. Saved myself £110 as a result!

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Ive had one for a fortnight now and its been great to use so far. One feature I really like is creating a turbo trainer session (or 'workout' in Garmin speak) using Garmin Connect and then uploading this to the unit so you are guided through the session with on screen prompts, with a 5 beep countdown to the next interval. Its done via Plan > Workouts > Create new workout.
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