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Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby JonLad85 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 08:17 am

Hi

I've finally cracked to all the shouts that a wheel is the best upgrade you can do to your bike.

I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to bike components and what to look for so I'm looking for advice from this forum.

I currently have the following bike

I've just signed up to the Wooler Wheel 160km and Virgin Money Cyclone. I am also doing the Coast to Castle across 3 days...Around 60 miles a day. My training rides range from 40m to 80m.

I'm looking to spend around £400-600 and I am happy to stick with my mavic wheels for training rides but when it comes to the sportive rides I'd like something that is going to give me that extra 1mph average. I'm also open if people want to suggest a wheel that is suitable to keep on the bike for training and sportive rides. I've started looking at the Fulcrum Racing 3 wheel based on the review on this website however I don't fully understand the benefits/drawbacks of the wheel and why they might suit me better.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby ugo.santalucia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 08:40 am

No wheel will give you 1 mph advantage... Unless your current ones are dreadful, which is a possibility, but bear that in mind.
I don't like Fulcrum wheels... They use a bizarre rear combination of 21 spokes that often leaves you with no other option than ditching everything for the smallest failure or incident. it is frustrating when you spend a lot of money... Bear that in mind too

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby smidsy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 08:42 am

If you are looking to do longer events on back-to-back days then surely reliabilty and fixabilty should be the priorities as opposed to outright speed.
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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby JonLad85 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 08:47 am

ugo.santalucia wrote:No wheel will give you 1 mph advantage... Unless your current ones are dreadful, which is a possibility, but bear that in mind.
I don't like Fulcrum wheels... They use a bizarre rear combination of 21 spokes that often leaves you with no other option than ditching everything for the smallest failure or incident. it is frustrating when you spend a lot of money... Bear that in mind too


Thanks for the tips...I would prefer something that will stand the test of time.

smidsy wrote:If you are looking to do longer events on back-to-back days then surely reliabilty and fixabilty should be the priorities as opposed to outright speed.


A good point...I would like something that is going to withstand a fair amount of use. I suppose I'm after something in the middle of speed/reliability if such a wheelset exists

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby Imposter » Wed Feb 13, 2013 08:52 am

The wheels you already have will do the job perfectly well.

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby smidsy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 08:53 am

Perhaps something like these, Ambrosio Excellight rims, 32 DT Competition spokes

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maybe on dura ace hubs?
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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby cloggsy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:01 am

I'm upgrading wheels on my road bike for this season.

I'm veering towards the Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset.

I was looking at the Mavic R-SYS Clincher Road Wheelset; beautiful set of wheels IMHO, but to be honest they're proabaly too 'overkill' for me & I would hate to 'mash' 'em on the commute!

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby JonLad85 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:03 am

smidsy wrote:Perhaps something like these, Ambrosio Excellight rims, 32 DT Competition spokes

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maybe on dura ace hubs?


I've had a quick search on the above and I'm guessing these rims would involve building the wheel?

I'd prefer a wheelset option to be fair unless there are clear advantages to building the wheel up from scratch.

I haven't thought about hubs..someone at work mentioned DT Swiss 240's but these look to be out of my price range. I've had a search for dura ace hubs there and I'm liking the reviews they get so something for me to consider!

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby JonLad85 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:05 am

cloggsy wrote:I'm upgrading wheels on my road bike for this season.

I'm veering towards the Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset.

I was looking at the Mavic R-SYS Clincher Road Wheelset; beautiful set of wheels IMHO, but to be honest they're proabaly too 'overkill' for me & I would hate to 'mash' 'em on the commute!


Can you go into a bit more detail why you are veering towards the Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset?

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby cloggsy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:11 am

JonLad85 wrote:
cloggsy wrote:I'm upgrading wheels on my road bike for this season.

I'm veering towards the Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset.

I was looking at the Mavic R-SYS Clincher Road Wheelset; beautiful set of wheels IMHO, but to be honest they're proabaly too 'overkill' for me & I would hate to 'mash' 'em on the commute!


Can you go into a bit more detail why you are veering towards the Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset?


In what way Jon?

I like the look of these wheels; they are also lighter than the stock wheels on my bike presently (Ritchie Pro's), they get great reviews and they are within my price bracket :wink:

I've also looked at Hope Hoops Pro3 RS-Mono road wheelset but they've stopped making them (unfortunately) :(

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby JonLad85 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:22 am

cloggsy wrote:
JonLad85 wrote:
cloggsy wrote:I'm upgrading wheels on my road bike for this season.

I'm veering towards the Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset.

I was looking at the Mavic R-SYS Clincher Road Wheelset; beautiful set of wheels IMHO, but to be honest they're proabaly too 'overkill' for me & I would hate to 'mash' 'em on the commute!


Can you go into a bit more detail why you are veering towards the Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset?


In what way Jon?

I like the look of these wheels; they are also lighter than the stock wheels on my bike presently (Ritchie Pro's), they get great reviews and they are within my price bracket :wink:

I've also looked at Hope Hoops Pro3 RS-Mono road wheelset but they've stopped making them (unfortunately) :(


In terms of the type of riding you'll be doing, flat/lots of climbing/distance...I like the sound of the review mentioning you get a certain degree of stiffness in them when you want to apply a lot of power. Which matches the reliability and speed I was after. I must admit I never considered the look but I think these would go pretty well with the colour scheme of my bike 8)

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby cloggsy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:31 am

JonLad85 wrote:I must admit I never considered the look but I think these would go pretty well with the colour scheme of my bike 8)


Sold! :lol:

They fit in nicely with my scheme too :D

I do all sorts of riding; from commuting to 60, 80, 100km+ rides. I'm also toying with joining a road riding club to improve my riding and fitness...

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby ugo.santalucia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 09:58 am

JonLad85 wrote: I must admit I never considered the look but I think these would go pretty well with the colour scheme of my bike 8)


Ah, it was the coliur then... :mrgreen:

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby JonLad85 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:03 am

ugo.santalucia wrote:
JonLad85 wrote: I must admit I never considered the look but I think these would go pretty well with the colour scheme of my bike 8)


Ah, it was the coliur then... :mrgreen:


Slightly distracted there :D

Back to reasoning...I think I now fancy either Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset or still the Fulcrum 3's (Slightly put off now from a previous comment that failure of any part of the wheel would mean I'd have to replace the entire wheel)

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby ugo.santalucia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:13 am

JonLad85 wrote:
ugo.santalucia wrote:
JonLad85 wrote: I must admit I never considered the look but I think these would go pretty well with the colour scheme of my bike 8)


Ah, it was the coliur then... :mrgreen:


Slightly distracted there :D

Back to reasoning...I think I now fancy either Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset or still the Fulcrum 3's (Slightly put off now from a previous comment that failure of any part of the wheel would mean I'd have to replace the entire wheel)


Well, Mavic is not great on spares either... a spare rim will set you off 150 pounds, give or take and when they change rims, they don't typically stock older models and newer might not fit. I haven't seen the latest Elites, not sure you could use another cheaper rim instead... probably not without replacing the spokes too... definitively not in the case of Fulcrum, due to the stupid drilling...

Otherwise there in nothing wrong with the Elite... they are fairly durable and can tolerate abuse better than others. I find them a bit expensive, for what they are... good hubs, decent rims... nearly 500 pounds... not cheap!

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby smidsy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:16 am

And also quite a harsh ride, not exactly ideal for back-to-back long days in the saddle.
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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby ugo.santalucia » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:17 am

smidsy wrote:And also quite a harsh ride, not exactly ideal for back-to-back long days in the saddle.


Well... someone here would argue that 60 miles is hardly a long day on the saddle... with the Elites it's probably 3 hours... :mrgreen:

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby cloggsy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:18 am

JonLad85 wrote:
ugo.santalucia wrote:
JonLad85 wrote: I must admit I never considered the look but I think these would go pretty well with the colour scheme of my bike 8)


Ah, it was the coliur then... :mrgreen:


Slightly distracted there :D


You can't forget The Rules! :wink:

JonLad85 wrote:Back to reasoning...I think I now fancy either Mavic Ksyrium Elite S wheelset or still the Fulcrum 3's (Slightly put off now from a previous comment that failure of any part of the wheel would mean I'd have to replace the entire wheel)


The Elite's are pretty bomb-proof from what I've heard/read - They're the wheels for me I think...

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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby smidsy » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:22 am

ugo.santalucia wrote:
smidsy wrote:And also quite a harsh ride, not exactly ideal for back-to-back long days in the saddle.


Well... someone here would argue that 60 miles is hardly a long day on the saddle... with the Elites it's probably 3 hours... :mrgreen:


That long blimey...if only they had Zipp 303's.

I purposely refrained from mentioning mileage, much better to look at time on the bike. I mean some people could take 7 hours. :roll:
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Re: Wheel Upgrade Advice

Postby JonLad85 » Wed Feb 13, 2013 10:38 am

If it helps I've set myself a target of under 7 hours for the 104 mile Cyclone I've entered in the hope I hit 6.30!

I've just had the following recommended to me at work...problem is I can't find many reviews on them. There are some on the actual website but I would like some comments that aren't potentially non biased


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