Base layers in summer?

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Legobrickman
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Base layers in summer?

Postby Legobrickman » Wed Mar 06, 2013 19:54 pm

Hi everyone and anyone.
I've just made the switch to road riding and have a question regarding base layers.
I always thought they were meant for cold weather but after digging arounf the internet seems there is a reason for wearing them in summer months.

The question is...Does it realy need to be a specificly designed base layer or would a running top E.g. a sleveles addidas climacool be sufficient?

Many thanks

giropaul
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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby giropaul » Wed Mar 06, 2013 20:02 pm

Most of the time in the UK you would be advised to wear at least one base layer under the jersey. This also helps to protect you if you fall - one layer will slide over the other.
Your existing top sounds fine, but on cooler (say under 20-24degrees or so) another layer as well might be advisable.

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby Legobrickman » Wed Mar 06, 2013 20:08 pm

Thanks for that.
It just seems strange to be wearing so many layers as i can quite happily run for miles in down to 2 or 3 degrees in a climacool and maybe one very thin layer and even then overheat.

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby coriordan » Wed Mar 06, 2013 20:13 pm

As you go faster the windchill has a greater effect.
When you are climbing in winter you quickly start to sweat. Descending the other side and all the sweat can freeze and it gets COLD!

Just see how you get on. Good thing about cycling kit is you have full length zips that look even more badass when undone, so wrap up, then peel off as you warm up? You'll soon work out what's too hot

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby alleztoz » Wed Mar 06, 2013 20:17 pm

Yes the windchill on the bike is so much more than when running, also maybe i shouldn't say it here but generally running is harder work too! However personally in the summer, 16+ deg, I would just wear a jersey.

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby Mikey23 » Wed Mar 06, 2013 20:44 pm

Yes I had to get out of that mindset too. Would have been out in winter in tee and tights with gloves but that doesn't work at all on a bike!

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby junglist_matty » Wed Mar 06, 2013 20:53 pm

For temperatures under 10 degrees, I always wear a base layer under my long sleeve thermal top, ski socks, overshoes & my nanoflex 3/4 bibs and wear thick leather fleece lined gloves.

For temperatures between 10 and 15 degrees I wear only my thermal long sleeve top with no baselayer & my 3/4 nanoflex bibs, on warmer days I loose the overshoes and wear spring gloves.

For temperatures over 15 degrees I wear summer bibs and short sleeve zipped top which in really hot weather can be unzipped for extra ventilation and no gloves.

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby smidsy » Wed Mar 06, 2013 22:41 pm

I suppose there are base layers and then there are base layers.

The technologically designed modern products are made from complex fibres that wick away moisture so you are not left with wet skin. They are also designed to dry quickly.

This helps to keep you cool so that is where it makes sense to have one even in the summer.

You can get sleeveless or short sleeve to suit and the ones like string vests look pro :-)
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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby TakeTurns » Wed Mar 06, 2013 23:00 pm

Always wear mine, keeps me cool in the hot. Also protects against UV rays.

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby redvee » Thu Mar 07, 2013 00:58 am

giropaul wrote:This also helps to protect you if you fall - one layer will slide over the other.


I speak from experience with this. I wore a cheap primark base layer 2 springs ago and came a cropper and would have trashed my Foska top if it wasn't for the base layer. It didn't prevent the brake lever going into my thigh though. :shock:

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby cougie » Thu Mar 07, 2013 08:55 am

It's got to be very warm before I don't wear a base layer.
I've not noticed a difference between cheap aldi ones and the big brand names.

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby coriordan » Thu Mar 07, 2013 09:00 am

Odd as I notice a considerable difference between my helly (the stinky one) and my Endura Baa Baa - especially when its hovering around 0. Both worn under an Assos Prosline (the predecessor to the 851)

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby iPete » Thu Mar 07, 2013 09:18 am

I've never worn one in the summer but see the pros in blazing heat in those netted vest style ones?

I'm not a sucker for buying stuff cos the pros use them but interested if these are any good?

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby giropaul » Thu Mar 07, 2013 09:40 am

iPete wrote:I've never worn one in the summer but see the pros in blazing heat in those netted vest style ones?

I'm not a sucker for buying stuff cos the pros use them but interested if these are any good?


They are excellent, mainly because they hold the next layer away from the skin, ensuring that you stay dry. I use one all year - under the wicking layer when colder, and under the jersey when warm.

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby Lightning » Thu Mar 07, 2013 09:41 am

iPete wrote:I've never worn one in the summer but see the pros in blazing heat in those netted vest style ones?

I'm not a sucker for buying stuff cos the pros use them but interested if these are any good?

I use them every time but if you feel fine without one, don't bother. They're extremely light and you don't even feel them once worn. They help with wind and sweat but I just use them because I don't like the feel of the jersey on my skin.

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby Supermurph09 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 09:50 am

iPete wrote:I've never worn one in the summer but see the pros in blazing heat in those netted vest style ones?

I'm not a sucker for buying stuff cos the pros use them but interested if these are any good?


I'm a sucker, send me a link please! :D

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby zx6man » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:06 am

I use one in the summer too, a good one just pulls the sweat away from the body , quite neat really.

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby thegreatdivide » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:20 am

I've got a sleeveless Adidas Climacool - it's a good base layer with a nice bit of compression to it too.

In my current base layer arsenal I've got:

1 x sleeveless 'string' - summer
1 x shorts sleeve 'string' - summer
1 x sleeveless Adidas Climacool – summer morning/evening rides
1 x short sleeve merino – spring/autumn
1 x long sleeve merino – cold spring/autumn, winter
1 x long sleeve thin windproof – spring/summer/autumn

Might seem a ridiculous amount of base layers but they all get used. The latter two are perfect for wearing as the only layer under a waterproof if you know it’s going to be a wet ride from start to finish. It does an excellent job of regulating temperature without becoming boil in the bag, regardless of the level of exertion.
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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby nferrar » Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:55 am

I always wear a base layer, even in 35c heat - it will just be a mesh one though to aid wicking and for me it feels more comfortable than having a soaked-through jersey on my skin (they don't make you feel any hotter IME).

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Re: Base layers in summer?

Postby anto164 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 13:10 pm

I've got a few Prendas Climacool baselayers for the summer. They work perfectly. Providing a nice amount of insulation against the windchill when descending. If i start to overheat, i drop the zip on my jersey down to bellybutton height.


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