Dura ace 9000 C50

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Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby martyh » Tue Apr 02, 2013 19:52 pm

I'm looking to pull the trigger on these in the next day or so.
They are fairly new so there are not many reviews on them.
Does anybody have any c50's or can think of any reason not to buy them.
These will be used for daily use (on nice days) for my new Tarmac Sl4 build (dream mid life crisis bike)and will be used for everything.
Their main purpose is to pimp my ride as much as anything else and they are just at my budget at £1050. (Over budget really' but you only hit your forties once!)
Any opinions welcome and great fully recieved but I will buy some 38-50mm clinchers (carbon or ALU brake track).

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby Zoomer37 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 20:52 pm

Your not going to go far wrong with DA wheels mate, but personally id go for the C35's. They'll look better on that Tarmac and probably be a slightly better choice for all round use

http://www.merlincycles.com/bike-shop/w ... -pair.html

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby Bigpikle » Thu Apr 04, 2013 19:05 pm

Also thinking of these and interested to hear more. I see BR said they just received some and a review is due soon so hopefully it will have some meaningful info in addition to the Shimano press release....
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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby Lazybike » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:05 pm

Club mate had last years version of these...he's heavy, 16stone, broke spokes every ride, he's on zeros now.

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby Bigpikle » Fri Apr 05, 2013 15:41 pm

Lazybike wrote:Club mate had last years version of these...he's heavy, 16stone, broke spokes every ride, he's on zeros now.


Ouch - best Mae sure I don't get these and put on 5 stone then !
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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby Grill » Fri Apr 05, 2013 16:33 pm

One of our club riders has them- he's a big lad too and ridiculously powerful. No problems.

Check out the Reynolds Assaults as well if you're interested in a full carbon clincher. Really good wheelset for the money.
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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby Lazybike » Fri Apr 05, 2013 17:08 pm

At your weight I'm sure they'll be fine....Bike 24 have some on offer. Last years though...

http://www.bike24.com/1.php?content=8;n ... id=2;pgc=0

...and no good for 11 speed.

Just seen they've got Zipp 404's on there for 1100 euros.... :shock:

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby FransJacques » Fri Apr 05, 2013 17:36 pm

959g for a rear and 761 for a front? Ppfffah no thanks.

Get Zipps.

Unless you 100% need the alu braking surface b/c you a) live in a rainforest, b) live on Mt Blanc, c) live in Mons en Pevele, d) are very fat.
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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby Imposter » Fri Apr 05, 2013 17:41 pm

agreed - it's a lot of money for some heavy wheels. I have a pair of EA70s which are lighter than that ;)

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby Bigpikle » Fri Apr 05, 2013 19:28 pm

Those Zipps are old 404s and the same weight as the new C50's and new tech. Maybe more poser value but the same price as brand new 11 spd C50's which have the advantage of the alu brake track and easily serviced hubs. I think I know which I'd prefer....
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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby awsm » Sat Apr 06, 2013 05:59 am

I'm also thinking of ordering a set of these. The CL' are around £1k ATM from a couple of places.

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby foggymike » Sat Apr 06, 2013 06:17 am

The Zipps are not a normal set - it's the standard front wheel (16 spokes) with a MAX rear which has extra spokes for the larger gentleman (24 instead of 20) and is a tiny bit heavier. The matching MAX front should have 18 spokes.

It's a shame about the half white spokes on the D-A C50s. I think they'd look a lot better with all black spokes and it would be easier to get spares if needed. Maybe it will grow on me!

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby martyh » Tue Apr 09, 2013 16:01 pm

I pulled the trigger on the C50's and fought off the weight weeny demon inside.
Picked them up today and couldnt resist weighing them. 1008R/829F (incl rim tape). slightly flabergasted by the weight and I think the rim tape is only 15-20g per wheel. Almost tempted to ship them back but they do look very well put together and means I just have to train and work that micron more to make the spin as fast.
So I think when the Marmotte comes around in July the 1550g RS80's are going back on!

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby ugo.santalucia » Tue Apr 09, 2013 16:12 pm

Carbon clinchers are heavy, we keep shouting this on this forum. Manufacturers always claim a good 100 grams less than they really are, sometimes more.
I have pretty much given up the idea of building them, as they seem to be too much of a compromise in all areas.
The thought of returning them while you can is not a bad one

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby awsm » Wed Apr 10, 2013 09:59 am

martyh wrote:I pulled the trigger on the C50's and fought off the weight weeny demon inside.
Picked them up today and couldnt resist weighing them. 1008R/829F (incl rim tape). slightly flabergasted by the weight and I think the rim tape is only 15-20g per wheel. Almost tempted to ship them back but they do look very well put together and means I just have to train and work that micron more to make the spin as fast.
So I think when the Marmotte comes around in July the 1550g RS80's are going back on!


Got a very nice quote on them from my LBS this morning too but that weight is 400g +/- heavier than my C24's :(

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby foggymike » Thu Apr 11, 2013 07:23 am

That's about 100g more than the previous generation of the D-A C50s were in reality and 150g or so more than the real weight of the old Zipp 404s which are 58mm deep rather than 50mm. At that weight they are the same as the 58mm Fast Forward F6Rs too which are available for around £200 less.

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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby duckson » Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:54 am

I'd of been taking a serious look at:- http://www.wheelsmith.co.uk/news/107-50 ... click-here
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Re: Dura ace 9000 C50

Postby Bigpikle » Thu Apr 11, 2013 14:12 pm

I do think this is a great exmple of weight obsessiveness when it doesn't really matter. Log on to any of the cycling analytic calculators and look at what difference adding even 1kg to your bike would make in reality... Of course the same calculators tell you how many seconds a deep aero wheel really saves in a 50km event and when you do you'll probably see there is just no point at all :(

Doesn't make me want them any less though :)
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