Any Schleck's Time Trialling

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Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby philw80 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 14:56 pm

It's been known for - what? 4/5 years at least that he can't TT, but how does he keep his position as team leader when he obviously won't even try to rectify it? 108th or whatever he finished on is disgraceful for a rider as highly rated as he supposedly is.

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby Rick Chasey » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:02 pm

He's not trying this year.

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby BigMat » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:09 pm

Its good enough to give him a shot at a mountain stage win - I think that may have been the plan, anyway.

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby ddraver » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:12 pm

Hoooray the Yearly Andy Schleck just needs to learn to TT Thread! I did nt think we'd get one this year!

Seriously though your really on to something here. E-mail Leopard Trek and tell them that they need to work on Schleck's TTing, I bet it's never ever crossed their mind! Like EVER!!
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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby LeicesterLad » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:14 pm

He was a junior TT champion once upon a time.

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby dougzz » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:15 pm

Deliberately worse this year to make it more likely he'll be allowed await on a climb to look for stage win.

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby dougzz » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:16 pm

LeicesterLad wrote:He was a junior TT champion once upon a time.

For all of Luxembourg or just his street?

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby LeicesterLad » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:17 pm

dougzz wrote:
LeicesterLad wrote:He was a junior TT champion once upon a time.

For all of Luxembourg or just his street?


They are one and the same. :lol:

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby Yellow Peril » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:50 pm

ddraver wrote:Hoooray the Yearly Andy Schleck just needs to learn to TT Thread! I did nt think we'd get one this year!

Seriously though your really on to something here. E-mail Leopard Trek and tell them that they need to work on Schleck's TTing, I bet it's never ever crossed their mind! Like EVER!!



It's a bit like trying to tell my dog to stop sh1tting on the lawn...

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby ddraver » Wed Jul 10, 2013 15:52 pm

Except your dog probably has nt done eveything it possibly can to avoid ******** on the lawn* and is just not very good at holding on...

*I have never met YP's dog and cannot confirm or deny this allegation
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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby Yellow Peril » Wed Jul 10, 2013 16:06 pm

ddraver wrote:Except your dog probably has nt done eveything it possibly can to avoid ******** on the lawn* and is just not very good at holding on...

*I have never met YP's dog and cannot confirm or deny this allegation



pretty much like Schleck on a TT bike..."Domino" sends his regards :wink:

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby philw80 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 17:38 pm

ddraver wrote:Hoooray the Yearly Andy Schleck just needs to learn to TT Thread! I did nt think we'd get one this year!

Seriously though your really on to something here. E-mail Leopard Trek and tell them that they need to work on Schleck's TTing, I bet it's never ever crossed their mind! Like EVER!!



I'm well aware of the fact that leopard trek know. But if an employee of yours was consistently shoot at an aspect of their job and effectively refused to do anything to improve, would you be happy?

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby ddraver » Wed Jul 10, 2013 17:52 pm

Show me one tiny thread of evidence that Andrew Schleck has REFUSED to work on his TT and I ll happily change my sig to say that "PhilW is the king of BR and knows everything there is to know about TTing"

His TT is as good as it can be, he's just not a good TTer when compared to the very best in the world.

Seriously...every year!
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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby philw80 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 17:58 pm

ddraver wrote:Show me one tiny thread of evidence that Andrew Schleck has REFUSED to work on his TT and I ll happily change my sig to say that "PhilW is the king of BR and knows everything there is to know about TTing"

His TT is as good as it can be, he's just not a good TTer when compared to the very best in the world.

Seriously...every year!



No problems pal, that's your opinion, I would personally say that there's no improvement. This suggests to me a lack of effort, given improvements in aero kit, training methodology etc. And don't bother changing your sig-I'm happy to admit I don't know everything there is to know about TTing :D

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby ddraver » Wed Jul 10, 2013 18:04 pm

Well while youre e-mailing Trek, ask them why Fabian Cancellara has "refused" to become a better climber. In fact forward that on to OPQS for Tony Martin and Cav while you re there...
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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby ALIHISGREAT » Wed Jul 10, 2013 18:13 pm

ddraver wrote:Well while youre e-mailing Trek, ask them why Fabian Cancellara has "refused" to become a better climber. In fact forward that on to OPQS for Tony Martin and Cav while you re there...


Don't you remember when Cav tried to improve his climbing for the Olympics?

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby ddraver » Wed Jul 10, 2013 18:16 pm

A great success it was too! ;)
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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby Remarkable » Wed Jul 10, 2013 18:44 pm

He is just a pure climber. Simples.

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby r0bh » Wed Jul 10, 2013 19:17 pm

ddraver wrote:Show me one tiny thread of evidence that Andrew Schleck has REFUSED to work on his TT and I ll happily change my sig to say that "PhilW is the king of BR and knows everything there is to know about TTing"


Happy to oblige!

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi? ... y;#3815779

Mat Steinmetz is a coach and bike fitter who mostly works in the triathlon world.

I've tried working with him a bit, but it doesn't look like much has stuck. I think there are too many cooks in the kitchen on this one and they don't know who to listen to. They've worked on the fit, worked in the Velodrome, worked in the tunnel...but, he doesn't give anything a chance. He consistently reverts back to the Velodrome testing done with SRM. In my opinion, AS doesn't have the patience to try and improve his TTing...just keeps doing the same thing hoping for a different result. The position is so adaptable, but doesn't give it the time. His saddle wasn't as far forward as it could go...he wasn't at UCI extension limits, his arms were really wide (hard to know without wind tunnel data if this is good or bad, but usually, tall skinny dudes are most aero with narrow elbows). It will take someone spending a lot of time with Andy to change this...Not one wind tunnel trip or a bike fit, but someone who will be there daily for a few weeks that he trusts and will give him the confidence to try something different and be there to make modifications along the way.

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Re: Any Schleck's Time Trialling

Postby mike6 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 19:23 pm

ALIHISGREAT wrote:
ddraver wrote:Well while youre e-mailing Trek, ask them why Fabian Cancellara has "refused" to become a better climber. In fact forward that on to OPQS for Tony Martin and Cav while you re there...


Don't you remember when Cav tried to improve his climbing for the Olympics?


Who says he has not improved? He will never be a climber, he is a specialist sprinter, probably the best of his generation, so he was never going to be great when the road got vertical. I would say his climbing has improved, but from a very low base.

As for Schleck's TTs? They are a joke. Anyone who is a team leader, can climb like he can, and can roll for 250 to 300k is plainly just relying on his poor reputation in TTs to use them as recovery rides. If you insist, I will email Trek and let them know. I will also let them know they should sign you up as there TT coach as you clearly do know everything there is to know about the subject.

I dont know why people who post threads get so much bile from some on here, merely because they have discussed an issue in the past. If you are bored with a subject why bother posting????


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