Carbon to steel - adapting !

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Chris217
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Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby Chris217 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 22:26 pm

Ok, so i am trying to do what every cyclist over 40 probably considers at some point in their life, find a bike for all seasons / bike for life ( while i actually enjoy changing my bikes i cant really justify it any more ) so one bike it is and ...i got one of these ;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/46371638@N07/9352413579/

after having one of these for sometime ;

http://www.flickr.com/photos/46371638@N07/8689640981/

i really like it and am starting to get used to the different ride characteristics , but not having had a proper steel bike for ages it really highlights the way carbon rides, stiff, light, responsive but not as smooth and also not as much depth / character in the ride. i have also noticed when climbing although the inital 'snap' stiffness is not there , the springy nature actually helps you up the climb.

i still have thoughts of carbon and slightly miss the stiffness / acceleration and can see why it is so popular . However while not completely completely convinced by steel i actually think i may be getting used to it

anyone converted to steel from carbon and not looked back?

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Re: Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby Barteos » Wed Jul 24, 2013 23:37 pm

Chris217 wrote:...I have also noticed when climbing although the inital 'snap' stiffness is not there , the springy nature actually helps you up the climb.


What you're experiencing is NOT just your imagination. Frame flex in synth with the rider can be beneficial and it's what some people refer to as frame planing.

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/10/0 ... stiffness/

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/02/2 ... stiffness/

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Re: Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby Chris217 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 08:52 am

Cheers Barteos, ..useful.

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Re: Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby keef66 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 13:52 pm

And your new bike is a lot easier on the eye than the old one too. :D

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Re: Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby speshsteve » Thu Jul 25, 2013 14:05 pm

the spring of the frame helps you up hills.......my god please someone shoot me

I have steel, nice bike but heavier and I am marginally slower up climbs compared to carbon bike which must be at least 2kg lighter........you can't beat physics I'm afraid
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Re: Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby dennisn » Thu Jul 25, 2013 15:57 pm

speshsteve wrote:the spring of the frame helps you up hills.......my god please someone shoot me



I anxiously await all the posts of denial, from the masses, that are sure to come with a statement like that. :wink:

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Re: Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby Raymondo60 » Thu Jul 25, 2013 16:07 pm

I love my steel-framed bikes - recently did the Dunwich Dynamo on a 1995 Steel bike and it rode comfortably and responsively all the way. However, if one were really looking for a 'bike for life', would not Titanium be the material of choice?
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Re: Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby Chris217 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 23:53 pm

"have steel, nice bike but heavier and I am marginally slower up climbs compared to carbon bike which must be at least 2kg lighter.".......

Bloody Hell ...that will be those genesis forks that weigh a ton ?

my SL3 frame and forks + headset and seatclamp was 1623g and the Ritchey is 2100g ....other than that the charateristics of the frame are of course different and acceleration is less immediate but still very good"

!you can't beat physics I'm afraid" - i can , since i have had my Ritchey ,i have eaten less pies, therefore i am lighter and faster ...

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Re: Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby Carbonator » Wed Jul 31, 2013 06:19 am

Chris217 wrote:
!you can't beat physics I'm afraid" - i can , since i have had my Ritchey ,i have eaten less pies, therefore i am lighter and faster ...


er, on both bikes that must be surely? :roll:

It seems the only problem with carbon is that it (oddly) makes you eat pies, and I am guessing that does not apply to anyone else.

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Re: Carbon to steel - adapting !

Postby night_porter » Wed Jul 31, 2013 12:35 pm

Carbonator wrote:
Chris217 wrote:
!you can't beat physics I'm afraid" - i can , since i have had my Ritchey ,i have eaten less pies, therefore i am lighter and faster ...


er, on both bikes that must be surely? :roll:

It seems the only problem with carbon is that it (oddly) makes you eat pies, and I am guessing that does not apply to anyone else.


No wonder my local pie shop is booming since I bought a carbon framed bike :lol:

Why don't the mags tell you this in the reviews???


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