No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

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No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby AndyK2479 » Tue Aug 20, 2013 16:43 pm

Just had a call from a Giant store after I enquired about the 2014 Defy Advanced 0, which is already showing on Giant's US and Australian website.
Bloke told me there will be no Defy Advanced 0 in the UK and NO Di2 equipped bikes at all, as the cost is prohibitive.
Also the only Defy SL will be the 1, top of the range 0 being dropped also.

If Giant aren't running with Di2 for the UK, does it mean electric shifting may be another short lived fad? Or do you think this a bit of a fool up on their part?

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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby giant man » Tue Aug 20, 2013 16:44 pm

just think it's Giant being short sighted ...
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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby Bar Shaker » Wed Aug 21, 2013 14:30 pm

The cost is now not much more than mechanical Ultegra so that's rubbish.

Di2 is the future,Giant may not be.
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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby Grill » Wed Aug 21, 2013 14:41 pm

Makes no sense especially considering that Blanco uses Di2...
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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby AndyK2479 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 15:45 pm

I thought it was strange as the Defy Advanced 0 with Di2 was a big seller for Giant in MY2013 from what the shop staff told me, it was also high on my 'next bike' list.

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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby spankwilder » Wed Aug 21, 2013 21:47 pm

Bar Shaker wrote:The cost is now not much more than mechanical Ultegra so that's rubbish.

Di2 is the future,Giant may not be.
RRP's may be similar but I bet the cost prices are a different story - odd though, despite cost I would've thought they'd have specced a tcr/defy advanced with di2 just to have them. Maybe that eleventh cog involved a significant rework of the rear mech??

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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby Grill » Wed Aug 21, 2013 22:09 pm

spankwilder wrote:
Bar Shaker wrote:The cost is now not much more than mechanical Ultegra so that's rubbish.

Di2 is the future,Giant may not be.
RRP's may be similar but I bet the cost prices are a different story - odd though, despite cost I would've thought they'd have specced a tcr/defy advanced with di2 just to have them. Maybe that eleventh cog involved a significant rework of the rear mech??


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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby daveyruthers » Thu Aug 22, 2013 06:38 am

They are doing dura ace Di2 but not Ultegra.
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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby Grill » Thu Aug 22, 2013 06:41 am

daveyruthers wrote:They are doing dura ace Di2 but not Ultegra.


In that case the answer is quite simple. Shimano has yet to release Ultegra 6870 and 6770 is now outdated and most likely discontinued, so as that's why you won't see 6770 on their 2014 line. Not all brands will go this route, but it makes sense now.
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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby daveyruthers » Thu Aug 22, 2013 06:48 am

If you go on Giant's Oz site the bikes are on there.
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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby Avit5 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:16 pm

From my quick chat with the Giant store this morning the only UK bike that will be specced with any electronic gears will be the TCR Advanced 0 @ £3250 which will have dura ace di2.

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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby daveyruthers » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:22 pm

That's far too cheap for dura ace Di2
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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby Avit5 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:31 pm

daveyruthers wrote:That's far too cheap for dura ace Di2


Agree but on the US Giant website the TCR Advanced 0 is $4475 which is about £2850 so given the inflated prices we pay in the UK it would seem about right at £3250.

Giant US TCR advanced 0 : http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bik ... 797/66270/

Maybe I have not heard him correctly though !! Hopefully the UK site will be updated with the new 2014 range in the next couple of days.

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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby Grill » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:41 pm

Avit5 wrote:
daveyruthers wrote:That's far too cheap for dura ace Di2


Agree but on the US Giant website the TCR Advanced 0 is $4475 which is about £2850 so given the inflated prices we pay in the UK it would seem about right at £3250.

Giant US TCR advanced 0 : http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bik ... 797/66270/

Maybe I have not heard him correctly though !! Hopefully the UK site will be updated with the new 2014 range in the next couple of days.


You're wrong as you haven't accounted for VAT. There is no VAT in the US as tax varies by state and county and is always on top of the listed price. So even at £2850 it works out to £3420 with VAT although I would wager it will come in at the 4k mark.
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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby Avit5 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 12:49 pm

Grill wrote:
Avit5 wrote:
daveyruthers wrote:That's far too cheap for dura ace Di2


Agree but on the US Giant website the TCR Advanced 0 is $4475 which is about £2850 so given the inflated prices we pay in the UK it would seem about right at £3250.

Giant US TCR advanced 0 : http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bik ... 797/66270/

Maybe I have not heard him correctly though !! Hopefully the UK site will be updated with the new 2014 range in the next couple of days.


You're wrong as you haven't accounted for VAT. There is no VAT in the US as tax varies by state and county and is always on top of the listed price. So even at £2850 it works out to £3420 with VAT although I would wager it will come in at the 4k mark.


Correct i am wrong about the VAT not be accounted for.
But on the US site the Defy Advanced 1 (ultegra 6800) is $3200 which is about £2050 plus VAT is about £2460 and the UK price of the 2014 Defy Advanced 1 is £2400 so not far from the US prices.

Like I say I probably didn't hear the Giant UK chap correctly and it will be nearer the 4k mark like you say.

Would be nice though if £3250 is correct - bargain !!

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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby lesmitch » Thu Aug 22, 2013 14:46 pm

hi giant bikes are having there launch as we speak I have just received 2014 full price list from a dealer if anyone is interested

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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby Grill » Thu Aug 22, 2013 14:53 pm

Post it.
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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby ct8282 » Thu Aug 22, 2013 15:50 pm

The bikes look nice. Almost identical to my 2012 TCR Advanced! In fact, the only thing that looks different is the paint job, and the price tag will look different of course.

In my opinion the bikes haven't 'advanced' one bit since 2012. Shame.

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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby rando » Thu Aug 22, 2013 15:54 pm

ct8282 wrote:The bikes look nice. Almost identical to my 2012 TCR Advanced! In fact, the only thing that looks different is the paint job, and the price tag will look different of course.

In my opinion the bikes haven't 'advanced' one bit since 2012. Shame.


I think in general the bikes are slightly cheaper this year than the outgoing model and without a reduction in spec.
I.E Defy Advanced 1 2013 was £2500 and this year it is £2400 and with 6800.

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Re: No Di2 on Giant 2014 UK range

Postby lesmitch » Thu Aug 22, 2013 16:10 pm

giant 2014 prices as requested
tcr advanced sl o 7000
sl 2 4800
sl 3 3000
tcr advanced 0 3250
1 2400
2 1900
tcr composite 1 1600
2 1300
3 1100
trinity composite 2 1700

defy 0 1200
defy 1 1000
defy 2 800
defy 3 700
defy 4 600
defy 5 500


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