Grippy tyres

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Grippy tyres

Postby ej2320 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 22:31 pm

I have 2.25 Nobby Nick and find them to lack the grip that I need

Could you recommend a grippy tyre for wet and dry trails?
I've heard the Hans Dampf tyres are good so they're top of the list at the moment

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby supersonic » Fri Aug 23, 2013 22:36 pm

Conti Rubber Queen Black Chilli.

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby ej2320 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 22:51 pm

supersonic wrote:Conti Rubber Queen Black Chilli.


Forgot to mention, heard the black chilli compound is very good
I'll check them out
Do you know what they're like in mud or greasy conditions?

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby coulddobetter » Fri Aug 23, 2013 23:20 pm

http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/categ ... e-12-46052
Bontrager xr4 team edition , wet roots no problem . The only thing that clogged them so far ( dog crap ! )

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby POAH » Sat Aug 24, 2013 04:46 am

coulddobetter wrote:http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/category/components/tyres/mountain-tyres/product/review-bontrager-xr4-235in-tyre-12-46052
Bontrager xr4 team edition , wet roots no problem . The only thing that clogged them so far ( dog crap ! )


do they not have a reputation for having really poor side walls?

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby The Rookie » Sat Aug 24, 2013 07:43 am

What compound are the NN's? Base compund are poor, the star/evo ones much better.

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby felix.london » Sat Aug 24, 2013 08:06 am

coulddobetter wrote:http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/category/components/tyres/mountain-tyres/product/review-bontrager-xr4-235in-tyre-12-46052
Bontrager xr4 team edition , wet roots no problem . The only thing that clogged them so far ( dog crap ! )


+1 ^


supersonic wrote:Conti Rubber Queen Black Chilli.


+1 ^


Can vouch for both of these in the dry. Have done a couple of wettish rides with the Conti's and they were fine
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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby ej2320 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 09:11 am

The Rookie wrote:What compound are the NN's? Base compund are poor, the star/evo ones much better.


I have no idea, cheapest ones probably, standard on the bike

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby ej2320 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 09:13 am

felix.london wrote:
coulddobetter wrote:http://www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/category/components/tyres/mountain-tyres/product/review-bontrager-xr4-235in-tyre-12-46052
Bontrager xr4 team edition , wet roots no problem . The only thing that clogged them so far ( dog crap ! )


+1 ^


supersonic wrote:Conti Rubber Queen Black Chilli.


+1 ^


Can vouch for both of these in the dry. Have done a couple of wettish rides with the Conti's and they were fine


I give those a go, I was riding mainly dry DH track with a few greasy patches and had a nasty off when the front wheel washed out so I want something to help stop that

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby peter413 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:31 am

Specialized Butcher Contol's work great in just about all conditions. Super grippy, pretty fast, last well, tough and not that heavy. Tubeless ready if you like that sort of thing as well. I use one on the front all the time of my AM bike unless it's super muddy or snowy when I get the Baron's or maybe even full spikes out.

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby ej2320 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:37 am

peter413 wrote:Specialized Butcher Contol's work great in just about all conditions. Super grippy, pretty fast, last well, tough and not that heavy. Tubeless ready if you like that sort of thing as well. I use one on the front all the time of my AM bike unless it's super muddy or snowy when I get the Baron's or maybe even full spikes out.


Ok sounds perfect, I'll try all 3 if possible

Just to clarify its not for a DH bike but I was riding my trail bike on a DH track when I lost the grip so I'd need an alrounder tyre that it specially good on slippy mud

Suggestions so far are awesome, any others feel free? :)

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby peter413 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:53 am

Sounds pretty similar to what I use it for. Use it for the DH tracks at Innerleithen as well as a lot natural tracks and just general riding. The Butcher is basically a Minion but better in every way.

Although, if you're concentrating on wanting grip in slippy mud maybe you should consider the Continental Baron. It's primarily a mud tyre so is a little slower than others but they still work very well on hardpack etc. I've ran mine on a lot of hardpack trails quite happily and they really make up for themselves when you get onto the muddy stuff, especially when there's roots and rocks about. Takes the job of a cut spike pretty much but works better on harder surfaces.

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby RockmonkeySC » Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:50 am

I have had Hans Dampf pacestar, Minions & XR4 team edition they are all ok but the Rubber Queens I am using at the moment are far better than any of them. I wouldnt buy them without the black chilli compound though. The 2.2" version is quite big so I wouldn't want the 2.4"
They are reasonably priced on Bikediscount.de at the moment.

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby ej2320 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:15 pm

Ok, I think I'll get the rubber queen and the butcher

Question is folding or not? Not for queen is £10 folding is £30.. Why?

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby RockmonkeySC » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:29 pm

Folding is lighter and has the better compounds.

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby peter413 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 13:02 pm

Watch out because Continental do a Black Chili and non Black Chili folding version of their tyres. None of the trail/XC tyres are available with a steel bead and Black Chili AFAIK

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Re: Grippy tyres

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby cooldad » Sat Aug 24, 2013 14:17 pm

If you pick the right ones from the drop down. Not the 20 Euro ones.
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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby POAH » Sat Aug 24, 2013 17:11 pm

problem with tyre advice is that they are on many different bikes, many different trails, many different weights and tyre pressures - so while one tyre seems better for one person another person will not get one with them.

all the tyres mentioned here are very popular and work well

are your treads quite worn, have you tried different pressures?

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Re: Grippy tyres

Postby ej2320 » Sat Aug 24, 2013 17:34 pm

my rear is very worn but the front is fine

I just wanted something that behaves better in the wet

I'll swap my old nick to the rear and put a queen on the front


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