What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

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What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby blinddrew » Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:59 am

So, I think I've decided on some new wheels (courtesy of wheelsmith), but I don't want to just lob my old Luganos on them (nice all-rounder as they are) as that seems to be slightly undermining the point of getting some nifty new wheels.
I don't race so i'm not looking at something almost disposable (hence clinchers not tubs), but do like nice quick rides with my mates and these would generally be for summer use. Doubt that it makes much difference but I'm probably a bit over average weight at 85kg*.
My frame and the new wheels will take 25mm tyres and that's the size I'm tempted by.
Conti GP4000s have been mentioned a few times on the forum as have a number of different Vittorias.
Any suggestions?
Also, is it worth spending the extra on latex tubes? Or is this just marketing guff?
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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby Lifeboy123 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:35 pm

I have Conti GP4000s, good all year round tyre even on Northumberland's roads. I prefer them to my Michelin Pro Race 4's. Not as light as Ultremos and other premium brands but they are durable and much lighter and give good grip and provide enough puncture protection that I don't need to consider gatposkins for the winter.

Out of interest what wheels did you plumb for ?

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Thu Sep 05, 2013 13:06 pm

I personally run Scwalbe Ultremos ZX's, been great for me, but might not be what your looking for based on the roads around your way. They can get little nicks in them due to their soft, grippy nature. But having said that, ive had one puncture in 1000 miles, so to be expected.

Still going strong though and im running Continental Race inners.

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby Cubic » Thu Sep 05, 2013 14:38 pm

You could try some Schwalbe Durano S tyres. They're more racy than the Luganos, but are a bit more sturdy and puncture resistant than the Ultremo ZX.

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby gryfon23 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 14:49 pm

You won't get much better than a set of Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX Clinchers with Michelin Latex inner tubes. A really beautiful ride.

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby jezzpalmer » Thu Sep 05, 2013 15:11 pm

gryfon23 wrote:You won't get much better than a set of Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX Clinchers with Michelin Latex inner tubes. A really beautiful ride.


Veloflex Corsa are very nice too, well worth a try.
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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby trek_dan » Thu Sep 05, 2013 15:30 pm

Vredestein Fortezza Tricomp Quattro's are a good durable all rounder I've found, certainly my tyre choice at the moment after trying a few brands over the time I've been riding. They were on sale for £20 at Ribble, but I think only in 23c so may have to pay full price for 25c's.

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby Bobbinogs » Thu Sep 05, 2013 15:55 pm

OnYourRight wrote:There’s a new version of the Continental GP4000S, called the GP4000S II, coming out soon...


That link is a bit confusing. The GP4000s (and version 2) is a folding tyre and yet the pictures showed wired tyres?

Also, I note that they don't promise much in terms of less rolling resistance/greater wear, etc, etc., just a new look.

I do rate the 4000s tyres though but they are race tyres like the ZX so can cut up easily. I usually just ride my 'race' tyres all year but have just bought some Ultremo DDs for this winter so I'll be interested to see how they get on in the crappy weather.

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby blinddrew » Thu Sep 05, 2013 18:07 pm

Cheers folks, that's reinforced the short list at least, will just have to have a look around and see what's on offer.

In response to Lifeboy123, I had a chat with those nice folks at wheelsmith and am awaiting a set of 24mm wide gigantex rims (50mm) built onto their own hubs with sapim spokes. I'll stick a write up on here when I've got them and done some sensible mileage.
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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby giant man » Thu Sep 05, 2013 19:23 pm

do yourself a favour and go for the PR4s, great all round tyres, available in 25s too ...
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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby wotnoshoeseh » Fri Sep 06, 2013 06:00 am

GP4000S in a 25. +1
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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby paul_mck » Fri Sep 06, 2013 07:15 am

I went for folding gatorskins this time around. 23mmF 25mmR. The folders arent heavy and should keep punctures at bay better. cheap enough too at £25 each.

Im struggling to find the downside with them tbh.

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby Teisetrotter » Fri Sep 06, 2013 07:46 am

gryfon23 wrote:You won't get much better than a set of Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX Clinchers with Michelin Latex inner tubes. A really beautiful ride.


I agree, but they will get slashed to death in the winter. I have had to pull a few emergency stops recently, including one where I went through the back window of a car, and the rear is an a bit of a state.

Great to ride, but they don't last.

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby Calpol » Fri Sep 06, 2013 07:50 am

Michelin Pro 4 Service Course - here - nice tyre and cheap too if you shop around

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby thegreatdivide » Fri Sep 06, 2013 09:24 am

OP - running 23mm tyres on your wide carbon clincher rim will produce the desired 'teardrop' aero shape - which is the whole point of wider rims. Wider tyres negate this effect but might give you a smoother ride. I prefer the former benefit myself.
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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby paul_mck » Fri Sep 06, 2013 09:26 am

you really think youd notice that?

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby thegreatdivide » Fri Sep 06, 2013 09:42 am

Do you really think folk can feel the benefit a tyre that's 2mm wider? ;-)
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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby paul_mck » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:02 am

well, yes

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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby Tom Butcher » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:03 am

The vittorias mentioned above are great but the Contis and Michelin Pro 4s are a little bit tougher especially the sidewalls.

Personally I wouldn't touch schwalbe Ultremos after having had problems with them bulging (something a mate also had on a ride last year so this isn't confined to early versions) and the replacements having threads coming away all the way round which doesn't inspire confidence. Yes they are fast and grip well but so do all top level race tyres. Mates tell me Schwalbe motorscooter tyres have a similar reputation for going out of shape.
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Re: What clinchers to go with some new wheels?

Postby blinddrew » Fri Sep 06, 2013 10:50 am

So Pro 4s or GP4000s seem to be the general direction here, with a couple of shouts for gatorskins and duranos.
Time to hit the sale sections and see what's on offer.
I'll see if there are any reduced latex tubes as well
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