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Alex Dowsett

Postby EPO Delivery Man » Thu Sep 05, 2013 13:03 pm

Just read he's going for the Worlds TT.

As much as i would love to see him get it, what are his chances realistically? 4th? 5th?

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby Paul 8v » Thu Sep 05, 2013 13:05 pm

I think he rode it last year, can't remember where he came. Depends on the course I suppose.

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby andyp » Thu Sep 05, 2013 13:19 pm

He was 8th last year, on a hilly course that probably didn't suit him.

Realistically, he'd probably finish around the same position again this year, given the riders who seem to be targeting this.

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby RichN95 » Thu Sep 05, 2013 14:52 pm

Martin, Wiggins and Cancellara will all beat him. Phinney quite possibly will. I don't think anyone else will, apart from perhaps Durbridge on a good day.
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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby Art Vandelay » Thu Sep 05, 2013 15:48 pm

Is Pozzovivo riding?

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby Ms Tree » Fri Sep 06, 2013 19:05 pm

He won the TT at the Giro. Wasn't it on a similar course?
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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby RichN95 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 19:19 pm

Ms Tree wrote:He won the TT at the Giro. Wasn't it on a similar course?

Not particularly. This more suits him more, though, as it's completely flat.
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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby TailWindHome » Fri Sep 06, 2013 19:50 pm

Does the TTer have to be in the RR team?
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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby RichN95 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 20:51 pm

TailWindHome wrote:Does the TTer have to be in the RR team?

Nope. That's just an Olympic thing as each sport is limited by how many competitors it can have overall.
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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby Ms Tree » Sat Sep 07, 2013 20:26 pm

RichN95 wrote:
Ms Tree wrote:He won the TT at the Giro. Wasn't it on a similar course?

Not particularly. This more suits him more, though, as it's completely flat.

Well it must have suited him as well 'cos he won - and beat your precious Wiggins! :lol:
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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby RichN95 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 23:41 pm

Ms Tree wrote:
RichN95 wrote:
Ms Tree wrote:He won the TT at the Giro. Wasn't it on a similar course?

Not particularly. This more suits him more, though, as it's completely flat.

Well it must have suited him as well 'cos he won - and beat your precious Wiggins! :lol:

I originally wrote a big rant about this - I'm now deleting it.

Some points though:

1. Don't come with that 'precious Wiggins' crap. You haven't earned it.
2. The WC is completely flat and doesn't have the technical sections and the big final climb that the Giro did. You might want to listen to people rather than mock them, particularly when they clearly know more than you.
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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby morstar » Sun Sep 08, 2013 06:19 am

Ms Tree wrote:
RichN95 wrote:
Ms Tree wrote:He won the TT at the Giro. Wasn't it on a similar course?

Not particularly. This more suits him more, though, as it's completely flat.

Well it must have suited him as well 'cos he won - and beat your precious Wiggins! :lol:

If I recall correctly, I think AD benefitted from setting a blistering pace on the flat sections in the dry. Later riders were much slower in the damp but were able to claw back time on the climb.
Not certain about the wet but that's definitely the case with the climb. With no climb, AD would have had a much bigger winning margin. So yes, a flatter course is better for him.

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby vs » Sun Sep 08, 2013 09:22 am

Looks like Dowsett can climb a bit too: he recently destroyed a brilliant time on a notorious local climb in the middle of a 80 mile ride.
http://www.strava.com/segments/878996

For reference:
Rider 2 on Joses Lane, Will, is an amazing climber; here's his time up the brutal Porlock Hill (I have ridden with him and know this is genuine and not depo):
http://www.strava.com/segments/847912
and Porlock Toll Road
http://www.strava.com/segments/894936

Rider 3 on Joses Lane Pete Vincent is a pro

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby Paul 8v » Sun Sep 08, 2013 09:53 am

Yeah, this is his local climb, that is bloody quick and this is the most contested hill in Essex (Also probably the only real hill in Essex) http://www.strava.com/segments/723218

Thing is, even people who "Can't climb" like Cav would still obliterate most riders on this forum so it's all relative.

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby Pross » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:06 am

Ms Tree wrote:
RichN95 wrote:
Ms Tree wrote:He won the TT at the Giro. Wasn't it on a similar course?

Not particularly. This more suits him more, though, as it's completely flat.

Well it must have suited him as well 'cos he won - and beat your precious Wiggins! :lol:


Surely the point being made is that he is even more at home on a flat course as is being used in the Worlds? But then so are Martin, Canc and probably Wiggins (who lost all his Giro time on the descent from memory and pulled a load back on the final flat section).

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby morstar » Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:45 am

Paul 8v wrote:Yeah, this is his local climb, that is bloody quick and this is the most contested hill in Essex (Also probably the only real hill in Essex) http://www.strava.com/segments/723218

Thing is, even people who "Can't climb" like Cav would still obliterate most riders on this forum so it's all relative.


This^ National road race at Barley a few years back which was and endlessly undulating course, I have a pic of Cav climbing at the front of the peloton on about the 4th lap. A pro bike rider who is regarded as a slow climber is not the same thing as a slow climber. In a similar vein, I wouldn't much fancy my chances TTing against that well known dreadful TTer Andy Schleck.

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby inseine » Sun Sep 08, 2013 13:04 pm

I don't suppose he'll win but unlike the other contenders he's been doing pretty much only TT training since the Giro so he obviously thinks he can do a ride. He's only young so if not this year then it's good experience for the future.

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby morstar » Sun Sep 08, 2013 13:34 pm

inseine wrote:I don't suppose he'll win but unlike the other contenders he's been doing pretty much only TT training since the Giro so he obviously thinks he can do a ride. He's only young so if not this year then it's good experience for the future.

I'll bet he's thinking podium! And why not, big ask but pro's are motivated by success. Every chance he could become the best of his generation if he continues working at it. Be interesting to see how he does vs Phinney as they are probably the 2nd tier just behind the 3 favourites.

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby gpreeves » Sun Sep 08, 2013 13:52 pm

Worth also noting that Dowsett is only 24, at that age Martin (2009) managed third at the Worlds - behind Canc and Gustav Larsson. In my opinion, he and Phinney are still a bit young to be challenging for the top spot, but Top 5s by both would suggest they'll definitely be well established in the top tier in a few years.

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Re: Alex Dowsett

Postby sjmclean » Sun Sep 08, 2013 15:23 pm

Out of interest, If he won, with him being the British TT champion, what happens to that jersey, does it get passed to second place or does he just not wear it.


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