***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

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***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Sep 18, 2013 08:53 am

Stoke-on-Trent to Llanberis

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http://www.tourofbritain.co.uk/files/do ... 13_St4.pdf


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1 11 Sir Bradley Wiggins Sky Procycling GBR19800428 SKY 11h 25' 54'' 11h 25' 54''
2 16 Ian Stannard Sky Procycling GBR19870525 SKY 11h 26' 31'' 0' 37'' at 0' 37''
3 61 Martin Elmiger IAM Cycling SUI19780923 IAM 11h 26' 41'' 0' 47'' at 0' 47''
4 182 Jack Bauer Garmin Sharp NZL19850407 GRS 11h 26' 49'' 0' 55'' at 0' 55''
5 93 Alex Dowsett Movistar GBR19881003 MOV 11h 26' 51'' 0' 57'' at 0' 57''
6 15 David Lopez Garcia Sky Procycling ESP19810513 SKY 11h 27' 11'' 1' 17'' at 1' 17''
7 42 Michal Golas Omega Pharma Quick-Step POL19840429 OPQ 11h 27' 12'' 1' 18'' at 1' 18''
8 135 Sergio Pardilla MTN Qhubeka ESP19840116 MTN 11h 27' 12'' 1' 18'' st
9 131 Gerald Ciolek MTN Qhubeka GER19860919 MTN 11h 27' 15'' 1' 21'' at 1' 21''
10 5 Alex Wetterhall Team NetApp Endura SWE19860412 TNE 11h 27' 15'' 1' 21'' st
11 121 Simon Yates** Great Britain GBR19920807 GBR 11h 27' 17'' 1' 23'' at 1' 23''
12 76 Marco Coledan Bardiani Valvole CSF Inox ITA19880822 BAR 11h 27' 20'' 1' 26'' at 1' 26''
13 46 Julien Vermote Omega Pharma Quick-Step BEL19890726 OPQ 11h 27' 20'' 1' 26'' st
14 152 Marcin Bialoblocki Team UK Youth POL19830902 UKY 11h 27' 24'' 1' 30'' at 1' 30''
15 86 Evaldas Siskevicius Sojasun LTU19881230 SOJ 11h 27' 25'' 1' 31'' at 1' 31''
16 94 Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil Movistar ESP19850608 MOV 11h 27' 27'' 1' 33'' at 1' 33''
17 181 Daniel Martin Garmin Sharp IRL19860820 GRS 11h 27' 32'' 1' 38'' at 1' 38''
18 71 Sacha Modolo Bardiani Valvole CSF Inox ITA19870619 BAR 11h 27' 33'' 1' 39'' at 1' 39''
19 45 Martin Velits Omega Pharma Quick-Step SVK19850221 OPQ 11h 27' 35'' 1' 41'' at 1' 41''
20 65 Sebastien Reichenbach IAM Cycling SUI19890528 IAM 11h 27' 38'' 1' 44''

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby frenchfighter » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:06 am

At last a hill in a significant place. I hope the GC gets shaken up good and proper today so that it resembles the GC of a balanced stage race rather than a whos who of a 10 mile TT.

Anyone know whether the climb is a killer or can they cruise over it?
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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby Above The Cows » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:18 am

Let's see if I can actually watch this today. What's the weather doing over in Wales? Are we expecting any rain? I know it's Wales and all but...
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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby thistle (MBNW) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:18 am

I think the last climb is long rather than steep.

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:31 am

Above The Cows wrote:Let's see if I can actually watch this today. What's the weather doing over in Wales? Are we expecting any rain? I know it's Wales and all but...



Forecast not too bad today. Maybe even a bit of sun. Could be short sharp showers though.

Weather front coming in from Atlantic that spells more unpleasantness for the riders tomorrow though

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby TailWindHome » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:32 am

frenchfighter wrote:At last a hill in a significant place. I hope the GC gets shaken up good and proper today so that it resembles the GC of a balanced stage race rather than a whos who of a 10 mile TT.

Anyone know whether the climb is a killer or can they cruise over it?


Disappointing that Dowsett couldn't make more of a race of it.
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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby Graeme_S » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:42 am

I've been to watch the Stoke stage the last 2 years. Last year was particularly good fun as I went with a colleague who also cycles and we took our bikes. Started at Trentham and watched the roll out, then cycled up to the KOM climb near Oakamoor, then cycled into Stoke for the finish, and back to Trentham to pick up the car.

On the way into Stoke we made a slight mistake and rode past a marshal who was directing traffic but completely ignored us. We then realised we were riding on the barriered off roads and the number of spectator's were starting to increase. A couple of people yelled "Come on Wiggo!" and before we knew it we were cycling up the hill towards the finish with everyone banging on the boards. We were very British about the whole thing and looked suitably embarrassed. As we approached the finish line a marshall waved us through the gap in the barrier that all team vehicles use. We locked our bikes up and the race came in about 5 minutes behind us!

Haven't bothered going this year, as taking the day off work to watch only the roll out in Stoke doesn't really seem worth the trip, and that will be the closest the race comes this year unfortunately.

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby TailWindHome » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:46 am

Alex Dowsett ‏@alexdowsett 2h
Getting deathstares off my teammates ahead of another potentially wet day. @jjrojillas keeps giving me weather updates from his Spanish casa
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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby Graeme_S » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:49 am

TailWindHome wrote:Alex Dowsett ‏@alexdowsett 2h
Getting deathstares off my teammates ahead of another potentially wet day. @jjrojillas keeps giving me weather updates from his Spanish casa

I'm sure I heard Cavendish describe a conversation with Basso he had during last year's ToB after a couple of days of terrible weather. I don't think Basso could quite believe that anyone actually cycled in a country with weather like that.

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby clanton » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:51 am

Basso never done the Giro then? Has had some pretty dire weather over the years.......

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby Above The Cows » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:53 am

Graeme_S wrote:I don't think Basso could quite believe that anyone actually cycled in a country with weather like that.


Basso should come to the Netherlands. We see the UK's rain and we add WIND! Anyway I've just dried out after yesterday's soaking so hopefully I can watch without feeling chilly.

Is anyone going to post a picture of a Welsh Mountain Pony and some cheese, or will said person get told off?


(Resisting making my one Welsh cheese joke...)
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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby Above The Cows » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:54 am

clanton wrote:Basso never done the Giro then? Has had some pretty dire weather over the years.......


Ah yes but that is off set by the infinitely better food. :D
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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:55 am

Above The Cows wrote:
Graeme_S wrote:I don't think Basso could quite believe that anyone actually cycled in a country with weather like that.


Basso should come to the Netherlands. We see the UK's rain and we add WIND! Anyway I've just dried out after yesterday's soaking so hopefully I can watch without feeling chilly.

Is anyone going to post a picture of a Welsh Mountain Pony and some cheese, or will said person get told off?


(Resisting making my one Welsh cheese joke...)



A pony picture would be good. Perhaps also a pic of a Llanberis steam train?

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby mike6 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 09:56 am

We have seen a few stages over the last three or four years, never less than exciting. Crowds in the most obscure places. Imagine how big the crowds would have been so far this year if the weather had been even a little kinder.
Looking forward to a good, hard, well contested race, but still hope for a British winner. That way the upwards profile and acceptance of cycling and road closures in Britain will keep moving in the right direction. One more rider, one less car. :D

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby Above The Cows » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:00 am

This is almost as good as Frenchie's Camargue horse.

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And here is the latest member of Cavendish's lead-out train. Ivor.

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby RichN95 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:19 am

Above The Cows wrote:(Resisting making my one Welsh cheese joke...)

You can make jokes about Welsh cheese if you like, but do it Caerphilly


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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby TimB34 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:20 am

Sorry, no cheese info, but the final climb up Pen y pass kicks off next to the Pen y Gwryd Hotel, which was used as the base for planning and training for the successful 1953 Everest expedition.

The final descent into Llanberis is down the Llanberis pass, one of the spiritual homes of British rock-climbing. There's one potentially nasty corner over a little bridge just before the Cromlech boulders (I think - I've never actually ridden a bike round there!) but anyone over the top first should be in with a good shout for the stage win.

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby sbbefc » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:26 am

Been raining all morning. The climbs arent all that, would have been harder if it was reversed.

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby inseine » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:29 am

TailWindHome wrote:
frenchfighter wrote:At last a hill in a significant place. I hope the GC gets shaken up good and proper today so that it resembles the GC of a balanced stage race rather than a whos who of a 10 mile TT.

Anyone know whether the climb is a killer or can they cruise over it?


Disappointing that Dowsett couldn't make more of a race of it.


He's targetting the worlds even more than Wiggins, or should I say, he's not bothered about the ToB, especially since he's going to pull out before the end. Possibly ultra coutious on the twisty bits and he didn't even reccy the course.

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Re: ***Spoiler*** Tour of Britain Stage 4

Postby RichN95 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:32 am

inseine wrote:
He's targetting the worlds even more than Wiggins, or should I say, he's not bothered about the ToB, especially since he's going to pull out before the end. Possibly ultra coutious on the twisty bits and he didn't even reccy the course.

I'm sure he would have been very keen to do a good performance. But he was ill, so he couldn't.
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