Why hardtails for winter

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Why hardtails for winter

Postby Alangjones » Fri Oct 04, 2013 07:03 am

After reading through the posts on here, I notice lots of people recommend hardtails for winter rideing just wondering what the thinking is behind this.

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby cooldad » Fri Oct 04, 2013 07:10 am

They get precious and worry about bearings and linkages getting wet and gritty, meaning less wear and maintenance to the 'nice' bike.
So theoretically all winter bikes should be single speed rigids.
The fact that summer generally lasts about 3 days sometimes escapes them.

You may notice that personally, I think it's a stupid idea.
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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby bamba » Fri Oct 04, 2013 08:19 am

may be the wet and rain is some how different in winter ?

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby UncleMonty » Fri Oct 04, 2013 14:51 pm

a hardtail is for life, not just winter

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby Kajjal » Fri Oct 04, 2013 15:08 pm

I used to ride a cheaper hardtail in the winter so my better bike was kept in good condition until the better weather came. This was party due to doing more road miles, reducing wear and tear from salt / grit / dirt etc, and also I would rather crash / damage a cheaper bike. Now I have a road bike it goes out in most weather on the road.

Its all down to personal choice.

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby mcnultycop » Fri Oct 04, 2013 18:27 pm

I ride my HT in winter as it takes a bit less cleaning after a muddy ride, but I'm not precious about my FS. I'm likely to ride more locally in winter too, so on my local trails the 150mm FS is a little unnecessary. .

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby cycle monster » Fri Oct 04, 2013 19:09 pm

The right bike for the terrain you intend to ride surely? There are dry days in winter and wet ones in summer. This sounds like a dark side, pyjama wearing rumour to me!

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby stubs » Fri Oct 04, 2013 19:17 pm

Hardtails are easier to clean and usually have better mud clearance.
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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby .blitz » Fri Oct 04, 2013 19:21 pm

One of the main advantages I notice when switching from fs to ht is how much traction the fs has, especially during this summer when the ground has been baked hard and the ht has been pinging and smearing off everything.

Now we're headed into winter, we've had a bit of rain and the ground is softer and the difference is not so noticeable and in places the ht has the advantage. Its the same every year and this why the ht gets more use over winter.

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby Alangjones » Fri Oct 04, 2013 21:13 pm

Ok so being a caravan park manager I have to work all summer and only get to play really hard in the winter, so what should my ride be. On the up side I do get to live in the middle of coed y Brenin, Nant yr Arian, and cli machx, as well as numerous local trails which very few people know about

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby cooldad » Fri Oct 04, 2013 21:17 pm

FS obviously.
Only poor people or masochists ride HT.
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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby stubs » Fri Oct 04, 2013 21:39 pm

If where you ride tends to be very muddy go HT if its rocky and doesnt usually get sloppy FS.

Or buy a Unicycle and you will be ready for all conditions :wink:
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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby Alangjones » Sat Oct 05, 2013 08:00 am

stubs wrote:If where you ride tends to be very muddy go HT if its rocky and doesnt usually get sloppy FS.

Or buy a Unicycle and you will be ready for all conditions :wink:


Sorry just to be clear is that a fs or ht unicycle :lol:

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby stubs » Sat Oct 05, 2013 08:35 am

Alangjones wrote:Sorry just to be clear is that a fs or ht unicycle :lol:


Oh definitely FS anything else would be so last year :lol:
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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby Carl170 » Sat Oct 05, 2013 14:23 pm

stubs wrote:If where you ride tends to be very muddy go HT if its rocky and doesnt usually get sloppy FS.

Or buy a Unicycle and you will be ready for all conditions :wink:


Like this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uPznTbus3g

How this guy doesn't catch his nads on something, I don't know. It looks terrifying!

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby passout » Sun Oct 06, 2013 14:40 pm

I get the logic of a winter HT but can't help but think that if you don't need FS in winter, then you don't need it in summer! I'd ride both all year & choose which one based on the terrain - or just stick to one.
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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby Carl170 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 16:31 pm

passout wrote:I get the logic of a winter HT but can't help but think that if you don't need FS in winter, then you don't need it in summer! I'd ride both all year & choose which one based on the terrain - or just stick to one.


Pretty sound logic! I have a HT, but really fancy a full susser.

However, I rarely ride graded trails, it is mostly stuff through woods and on old waggon ways, which do not warrant a FS bike. My mate has a FS but spends an awful lot of time catching up (and I'm not that fast!). I have had a shot on his and it seems poor on the flat and up hill.

The few times we go to trails (mainly red grade) , I am a little slower than him, but still reckon I have just as much fun!

Another friend I used to ride with went through a series of FS bikes - he simply slams into everything and expects the bike to do the work. I reckon he is a poorer rider for this. He has cracked a few frames over the years too!

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby cooldad » Sun Oct 06, 2013 16:47 pm

There are FS and FS.
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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby JayKay3000 » Sun Oct 06, 2013 18:57 pm

Isn't is similar to just lock out the rear if it's really muddy. You still have a bit of bob, but you're getting almost the same experience and still ready if the route gets technical. Last ride for example I only had the shocks fully open for the really rocky descents.

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Re: Why hardtails for winter

Postby Pesky Jones » Mon Oct 07, 2013 09:05 am

stubs wrote:Hardtails are easier to clean and usually have better mud clearance.


OHH Really... hahah

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