Canyon or B'Twin?

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Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby Sphinx_iii » Mon Oct 21, 2013 15:17 pm

Hello,

I have the money for either,

Canyon Grand Canyon AL 5.9
https://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes/bike.html?b=3206
or
Rockrider 8.1
http://www.decathlon.co.uk/rockrider-81-2012-mountain-bike-grey-id_8168918.html

Which is better for money?

Thanks in advance.

:)

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby The Rookie » Mon Oct 21, 2013 15:22 pm

The RR is better specced were it counts (forks), the Canyon will always be hampered on spec as 29ers are inherently dearer to build. That said the drivetrain is good.

Which is better depends on the planned usage!

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby Sphinx_iii » Mon Oct 21, 2013 15:24 pm

Mainly easy trails (Blue, maybe red), but once I'm more competent I will use the bike for more technical runs.

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby Sphinx_iii » Mon Oct 21, 2013 15:26 pm

Also, the fork on the canyon seems to be considerably more expensive, so would assume it is a lot better?

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby Kajjal » Mon Oct 21, 2013 15:47 pm

The Rookie wrote:The RR is better specced were it counts (forks), the Canyon will always be hampered on spec as 29ers are inherently dearer to build. That said the drivetrain is good.

Which is better depends on the planned usage!


Good advice , also depends on your own personal preference. My XC mountain bike was a 29er purely because I really liked the way it felt on a test ride, nothing to do with having predecided wheel size etc. Give them a test ride to see what you think, spec is important but no point having a good spec bike you don't like riding ;)

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby cooldad » Mon Oct 21, 2013 15:52 pm

More expensive doesn't always mean better, but the Canyon is quite a bit more expensive anyway.
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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby supersonic » Mon Oct 21, 2013 15:57 pm

Both well specced. The xc30 is lighter but not as stiff as the recon. Same damper.

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby Kowalski675 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 18:29 pm

The Canyon (well, it's 2013 equivalent model) does well in the group test of £600ish hardtails in MBUK this month (I browsed it in Asda this afternoon).
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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby adamfo » Mon Oct 21, 2013 20:35 pm

Hardtail 26" are almost extinct except at the lowest price point. Canyon and others have stopped making them.
Buy a 29er.

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby cooldad » Mon Oct 21, 2013 21:03 pm

adamfo wrote:Hardtail 26" are almost extinct except at the lowest price point. Canyon and others have stopped making them.
Buy a 29er.

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby supersonic » Mon Oct 21, 2013 23:33 pm

adamfo wrote:Hardtail 26" are almost extinct except at the lowest price point. Canyon and others have stopped making them.
Buy a 29er.


Nothing to do with what is the best bike though.

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby BigAl » Mon Oct 21, 2013 23:41 pm

adamfo wrote:Hardtail 26" are almost extinct except at the lowest price point. Canyon and others have stopped making them.
Buy a 29er.


By all means buy a 29er. But, please, only do it because it feels right for you not because someone tells you they're better or 26" bikes are old hat.
Try to ride them (realise that may be difficult with these particular bikes) then get the one that feels right for you.

I've only ridden one 29er and I wasn't keen, maybe because I'm only 5'8" and I don't think the big wheels suit small bikes. I should point out that I've ridden (well regarded) 26" bikes which I didn't much like either.

When you get on the right bike, you'll just 'know'

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby adamfo » Tue Oct 22, 2013 02:15 am

The XS framed Canyon AL29 does come with smaller 27.5" wheels.

Another cheaper bike to consider (amongst many) @ £642 + £26 shipping (logged-in basket price)
Better Reba RL forks, Shimano running gear, Easton finishing kit.

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The only downside seems to be a non-tapered headtube and it's in Deutschland the home of cheaper bikes.

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k1275/ ... tails.html

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby Sphinx_iii » Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:46 am

Croptonboy wrote:How about a Zircon II from CRC?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/vitu ... =generic&_


I like the look of this bike, but I think I will take some advice and just test some out to see what feels best. Thank you for your help!

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Re: Canyon or B'Twin?

Postby Mark909 » Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:34 am

cooldad wrote:
adamfo wrote:Hardtail 26" are almost extinct except at the lowest price point. Canyon and others have stopped making them.
Buy a 29er.

An adman's wet dream customer.


This is an interesting review i read recently. Stage 2 of the wheel size rip off. I can't wait to see everyone getting 27.5 now.

"The Talon 4 is an entry-level bike that’s full of surprises. Taking the Talon off-road, we were immediately surprised by its confident handling and playful ride nature. We’d previously ridden the Talon 29er and found it slow to accelerate and hard to throw around, but the 27.5 does away with these traits."


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