Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

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Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby aripallaris » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:24 am

A little brain picking if you dont mind!

Recently i bought my trek madone. amazingly fast and smooth. Now that leaves my old trek 1.5 9speed commuter bike feeling rather sluggish in regards to speed. Is it worth upgrade from a 9 to 10speed considering ill be using the same gearing 12-25. or is the power transfer down to the frame itself?

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby MajorMantra » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:26 am

In short, no. It won't make it any faster, you'll just get nicer shifters and whatnot. 9 speed chains are cheap and last a bit longer too, which is good for a commuter.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:28 am

No, it's a complete waste of money. My upgrade 2 years ago was going from 10 speed to 9... :shock:

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby markhewitt1978 » Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:38 am

No; your new bike will be faster in all sorts of ways, frame, wheels, etc etc, few of which will be down to it being 10 speed vs 9 speed.

If you want to upgrade your 1.5 then better wheels would be the first port of call. This would be an easy experiment for you, just put your new wheels on your old bike (swap the cassettes too) and see how much difference it makes.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby keef66 » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:12 pm

It's quite an expensive job since you'd need 10 speed shifters, chain and cassette. All you'd get for your considerable outlay is a thinner chain and an extra sprocket, neither of which will make the bike go any faster.

I just put a second hand 9 speed groupset on my carbon bike. Cycling in the dark I can't tell it apart from the 10 speed stuff on the other bike, and I have a feeling the 9 speed chain will last longer.

As has already been suggested, if you want to give the old bike a lift, some lightweight wheels, tyres and tubes would be a better way of spending your money. Or leave it as is, fit some guards and relegate it to winter / bad weather duty in order to keep the Madone in showroom condition.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby smidsy » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:26 pm

9 speed is all you need and better
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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby Stedman » Thu Oct 31, 2013 13:13 pm

smidsy wrote:9 speed is all you need and better

For commuter and general use including training, 9 speed is much, much better.

In fact if we now had a straight choice of 9,10 or 11 speed Campagnolo Record groupsets, it would probably be the 9 speed that I would go for.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby whoof » Thu Oct 31, 2013 13:51 pm

Pretty much all you would gain is a 16 tooth sprocket. Don't bother, the money you save can go towards your next bike.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby BigMat » Thu Oct 31, 2013 14:16 pm

I did it on my commuter / winter bike so that it was compatible with my best bike - basically so that I could switch the rear wheel without the extra faff of changing cassettes over. It wasn't an expensive job - I waited until the 9 speed chain and cassette needed replacing anyway, only other expense was a right hand shifter (which I picked up on eBay for around £30) and cables. The "9 speed" rear mech has worked flawlessly as a 10 speed set up.

It won't make your bike any faster though.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby Stueys » Thu Oct 31, 2013 15:42 pm

Have to say that I run 9spd on my winter bike and do get those moments when I can't quite get the right gear for my cadence. It's not something that fussed me much (I've had the bike for four years) but if I got a great deal on a 10spd group set I would probably bite.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby Slowbike » Thu Oct 31, 2013 15:54 pm

you could always change the cassette .... do you really need that 11/12 tooth sprocket now?

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby philthy3 » Thu Oct 31, 2013 15:55 pm

Well I converted my old Trek 1.5 winter bike from 9 speed Tiagra to 10 speed SRAM Force/Red simply because I had the bits available. It's made a difference simply because I prefer SRAM to Shimano and the spread of gears is a little better distributed. But the Trek is too big so I don't ride it often.
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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby Me-109 » Thu Oct 31, 2013 16:34 pm

I did it to get rid of the nasty Sora shifters and it was well worth it. About eighty quid in bits after I sold the stuff I didn't need. Agreed it won't make you any faster.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby djsoftware » Thu Oct 31, 2013 16:36 pm

I did exactly the same with my Trek 1.5 - it meant that I had the same setup as the 'best' bike (gear ratios etc) and the hoods were more comfortable. It also meant that as happened this week when a spoke broke in my rear wheel I could easily use one of my other wheels quickly.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby sherer » Fri Nov 01, 2013 09:02 am

i'm curious why would 9 speed me better than 10 speed ?

I ride 8 on my training bike and 10 on my Madone. I did want to change the training bike over to 10 speed but the cost was going to be just as much as a new bike so at the moment left it as it is

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby markhewitt1978 » Fri Nov 01, 2013 09:47 am

sherer wrote:i'm curious why would 9 speed me better than 10 speed ?


There is the opinion that because 9 speed has bigger chains and bigger cassettes that it's thusly more reliable and durable.

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby smidsy » Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:31 am

Less is more. I have found this to be the case with bicycle gears.
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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby Buckles » Fri Nov 01, 2013 22:02 pm

How can you have a 9 speed bike? Nobody makes cassettes with 4 and a half sprockets on them

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby MajorMantra » Sat Nov 02, 2013 09:12 am

Buckles wrote:How can you have a 9 speed bike? Nobody makes cassettes with 4 and a half sprockets on them


:roll:

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Re: Worth converting a 9 speed to 10 speed?

Postby smidsy » Sun Nov 03, 2013 16:21 pm

MajorMantra wrote:
Buckles wrote:How can you have a 9 speed bike? Nobody makes cassettes with 4 and a half sprockets on them


:roll:


Same way they make the new 11 speed ones.
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