Overdrive 2

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Overdrive 2

Postby RockmonkeySC » Mon Nov 11, 2013 21:03 pm

Why do Giant feel the need to have a different steerer size to every other manufacturer?
I want to buy a Trance and I can accept that it has a fork I don't like but what I can't accept is that it's a fork that will be impossible to sell on.
With any other bike I could take off the Fox CTD Evo and sell it as new for a couple hundred pounds but how am I supposed to sell a fork which won't fit any other bike?

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby 97th choice » Mon Nov 11, 2013 21:18 pm

It's a Pain in the aris. I reckon giant thought it would catch on with other manufacturers, but they haven't bitten (apart from canyon maybe?)
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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby RockmonkeySC » Mon Nov 11, 2013 22:16 pm

It's enough to put me off buying one. The fork isn't good enough and if I cant sell it then upgrading is going to be too expensive.
Thats on top of having to buy three sets of 27" tyres (wet, dry, dual ply) and a set of AM wheels for next year's alpine trip. suddenly a £2k bike is going to cost me £3k.
A nice used 26" bike is getting more appealing.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby lawman » Mon Nov 11, 2013 22:23 pm

Simple answer is build your own. Mega TR 275 looks pretty good and you could build a damn nice bike for £2k.

In theory Overdrive 2 shouldn't be an issue, it's the steerer and the upper headset cup & bearing that are different so you could fit them to any bike that will take a tapered steerer if you've got the right upper cup. I agree it's completely stupid though, just another example of Giant trying to do something innovative and failing.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby RockmonkeySC » Mon Nov 11, 2013 22:33 pm

I am tempted by the Mega TR but I would go for the 26". My stock of 26" tyres will keep me going for a few years!
The problem with the Giant is how do I sell a fork which wont fit any other bike?

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby lawman » Mon Nov 11, 2013 22:37 pm

Sell the fork with the upper headset cup and stem? IIRC it's just a standard 44mm OD cup with a different bearing so it will fit most frames to take a tapered fork. Should have no problems mixing headset cups. You might not get the same sort money a standard tapered fork would get, but it's an idea.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby 97th choice » Mon Nov 11, 2013 23:23 pm

It's less of an issue for 26" trance owners , but add that to 27.5" and you can understand why a fork wouldn't be that popular second hand
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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby supersonic » Tue Nov 12, 2013 00:36 am

With Giant, you never seem to know what they are going to do next.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby RockmonkeySC » Tue Nov 12, 2013 06:43 am

supersonic wrote:With Giant, you never seem to know what they are going to do next.


They make some brilliant bikes and then do stupid things to them.
My Reign X was ruined by an extremely fragile suspension linkage and mega short stroke shock.
If the Trance had 26" wheels and a normal fork it would be my perfect bike.
I think I might see what TF Tuned can do with the forks to make them properly adjustable and fit a good quality damper. If the forks can be fixed then I can consider one. If not then I might go for a Transition Bandit or Nukeproof Mega TR.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby lawman » Tue Nov 12, 2013 08:56 am

Are you looking at the trance SX? I know push are now doing a high/low speed compression compression adjust mod and a volume adjust system similar to the bottomless tokens found in pikes, only available for 34's though afaik

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby RockmonkeySC » Tue Nov 12, 2013 09:12 am

Possibly the SX but I'm not sure that I really want 160mm forks. It needs to do everything from 100km xc rides to gravity enduro races. I have done an enduro on my Anthem and did reasonanly well so I don't think I need a big travel bike.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby RockmonkeySC » Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:04 pm

I have done a little research this morning. The only wortwhile upgrade on a CTD Evo fork is to fit a FIT cartridge which will cost roughly £300 so I think thats the Trance off my list.
Mega TR or Transition Bandit I guess.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby supersonic » Tue Nov 12, 2013 15:58 pm

Or sell the fork and fit a pike or rev with new headset top.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby lawman » Tue Nov 12, 2013 16:22 pm

Devinci Troy? Looks pretty good, the geometry looks fantastic!

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby RockmonkeySC » Tue Nov 12, 2013 16:56 pm

supersonic wrote:Or sell the fork and fit a pike or rev with new headset top.


Who's going to buy a slightly crap fork which is only suitable for a Giant with a daft headset?
In the US the Trance SX comes with Pikeys, why can't we get that here?

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby supersonic » Tue Nov 12, 2013 17:04 pm

People with od2. People who know how to change a headset. It will sell, no doubt about that, and for about the same as normal on eBay.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby lawman » Tue Nov 12, 2013 17:05 pm

RockmonkeySC wrote:
supersonic wrote:Or sell the fork and fit a pike or rev with new headset top.


Who's going to buy a slightly crap fork which is only suitable for a Giant with a daft headset?
In the US the Trance SX comes with Pikeys, why can't we get that here?


We don't get anything over here! Spesh, Trek and Giant offer hardly any of their top-end bikes in the UK, we won't be getting the Trance SX Advanced, nor the top Remedy 27.5's and hardly any of the S-works bikes...

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby RockmonkeySC » Tue Nov 12, 2013 17:20 pm

The Trance SX advanced is available here. My local shop has one on order for another customer.

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Re: Overdrive 2

Postby mike hunts alpine » Tue Nov 12, 2013 19:09 pm

lawman wrote:
RockmonkeySC wrote:
supersonic wrote:Or sell the fork and fit a pike or rev with new headset top.


Who's going to buy a slightly crap fork which is only suitable for a Giant with a daft headset?
In the US the Trance SX comes with Pikeys, why can't we get that here?


We don't get anything over here! Spesh, Trek and Giant offer hardly any of their top-end bikes in the UK, we won't be getting the Trance SX Advanced, nor the top Remedy 27.5's and hardly any of the S-works bikes...


shoot really they should supply some over here or even still allow them to be ordered on demand. Probably losing out on a bit of profit there. People are obviously going to want the top models so there would be some demand. Not as much as US but still some is better than none.


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