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cwmboyo
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What mavic wheels?

Postby cwmboyo » Thu Dec 05, 2013 21:34 pm

im looking to get new wheels in the new year to replace my Shim R500.

iv looked at the Mavic Cosmic Elite S and the Ksyrium Equip but not sure which will be best for me.
im over the weight they say this wheel supports which is 100KG but thats mavic across the board.
budget is around £350.
just wondering if any of you guys use them and whats your thought, i weigh about 110KG which isnt that far out
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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby Kajjal » Thu Dec 05, 2013 21:54 pm

I weight just under 100kg and the problem you have is heavier riders put wheels under more strain. This is due to their actual weight, their increased strength and riding on rough roads makes it worse. This means lighter wheels will wear out faster and very light wheels are a much greater risk of failure. Much lighter riders are not affected by this.

If you tend to ride on smooth roads and are not continually putting a lot of effort in then you can get away with lighter wheels, otherwise you are looking at open pro wheels or similar with 32 spokes for reliable strength.

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby duckson » Thu Dec 05, 2013 21:56 pm

I think you will get the obvious (and correct) reply from most people saying get a set of handbuilts, they can be specifically built up to meet your needs.
As you can see the off the shelf wheels are recommended up to a certain weight and thats it, end of.
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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby cwmboyo » Thu Dec 05, 2013 22:00 pm

any suggestions guys?
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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby duckson » Thu Dec 05, 2013 22:03 pm

http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk/Wheel_b ... elset.html

thecycleclinic posts on here, might be worth contacting him directly.
Not sure what wheel builders might be near you in South Wales so cant comment on that.
Cheers, Stu

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby Holdyourline » Fri Dec 06, 2013 09:18 am

Have you considered Fulcrums? They're built to last, including for the heavy/strength rider - as are Mavic, but just thought I'd put the option out there

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby shmooster » Fri Dec 06, 2013 10:18 am

I'm 92 kilos, and broke my Mavic Ksyrium elite (split the rim around the spokes, common issue). Probably due to using it for commuting. Think a handbuilt is, as others have advised, your best option.

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby wiganwarriors » Fri Dec 06, 2013 11:47 am

Mavic Open pro 32 spoke count with ultegra hubs, my 20 stone cycling buddy as used these for a couple of seasons and had no issues.

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby smidsy » Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:19 pm

Even people under the 100kg report issues with them so you only increase the chances the heavier you are.

What do you want from a wheelset?
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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby panzhanrong » Fri Dec 06, 2013 12:59 pm

good,Not sure what wheel builders might be near you in South Wales so cant comment on that.thanksImage

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby cwmboyo » Fri Dec 06, 2013 13:55 pm

so would you say Mavic wheels are a no go?
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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Fri Dec 06, 2013 13:57 pm

cwmboyo wrote:so would you say Mavic wheels are a no go?


It's Mavic that says that... you are 110, they have a max. suggested rider weight of 100... hence you're 10 Kg out... I would not risk it as those weight limits are generous rather than conservative

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby thecycleclinic » Fri Dec 06, 2013 23:18 pm

Given the rear wheel take more than 50% of your weight 10 kg over the generous limit is quite alot for the rear wheel. It is that wheel that is more likely to give problems.
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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby solboy10 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 09:26 am

i am the same weight as you and my ksyriums elites have been fine.....so far. having gone for these for bling factor i would buy them again but would be more likely to go back to handbuilts next time with a 32/32 spoke count.

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:19 am

solboy10 wrote:i am the same weight as you and my ksyriums elites have been fine.....so far.


How far is so far in metric or imperial?

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby Buckles » Sat Dec 07, 2013 17:14 pm

:D .

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby cwmboyo » Sat Dec 07, 2013 21:50 pm

what hubs and rim choice?
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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Sat Dec 07, 2013 21:58 pm

cwmboyo wrote:what hubs and rim choice?


I think in your budget you can squeeze Ultegra hubs... 32/32 or 36/32 depending on the rim.... rims depends on the builders, some like and dislike this and that. Velocity Chukker or Deep V or Ambrosio Excellence/Evolution are all very nice and robust rims, ideal for you

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby warrerj » Sat Dec 07, 2013 22:43 pm

Good wheel builder and handbuilts - simples!
If you're in Blackwood there's a few options for you. Martyn Ashfields (Risca) have a good rep for wheel builds or Strad or Wheelsmith for online options - give them a ring to talk through your needs.

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Re: What mavic wheels?

Postby Mike Cotty » Sat Dec 07, 2013 22:46 pm

cwmboyo wrote:im looking to get new wheels in the new year to replace my Shim R500.

iv looked at the Mavic Cosmic Elite S and the Ksyrium Equip but not sure which will be best for me.
im over the weight they say this wheel supports which is 100KG but thats mavic across the board.
budget is around £350.
just wondering if any of you guys use them and whats your thought, i weigh about 110KG which isnt that far out


Hi there,

It's true, Mavic wheels are built with a suggested rider weight limit of 100kg. Defining a parameter like that helps with consistency in testing and engineering. Mavic's testing and validation for wheels is extremely rigorous, and many of their wheels actually can manage heavier riders under normal conditions. However, because individual riding styles (and road surfaces, conditions, etc) vary significantly, it's impossible to make a blanket statement about whether or not you'll have problems riding wheels like Ksyrium Elites. Some guys can be 10kg over the suggested weight and ride the same wheels for 5 years. Other guys can be 5kg under the suggested rider weight, and beat the wheels into the ground after only 1 season.

If you've had problems with product longevity and reliability in the past, that's probably a sign that you ride in tough conditions. In that case, I'd propose a custom wheel build solution with 36-hole rims like the A719. On the other hand if your equipment generally lasts a long time, it's likely you're not very hard on your bike and the Ksyrium wheels could give you a long service life.

Hope that answers your question, and thanks for the interest in Mavic products.

Mike Cotty
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