Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

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Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Chris Bass » Thu Dec 19, 2013 15:25 pm

At the start of the summer my cadence was woefully slow.

I have since managed to get it up to, a still slow, 75 average give or take. I'm not interested in racing or anything, more into longer rides but do quite like to challenge myself a bit here and there. Is it worth trying to get my cadence any higher?

if it is worth working on are there any tips? i have basically just not been changing gear into the highest gears as much keeping and eye on my cadence which i never did before.
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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby mpatts » Thu Dec 19, 2013 15:29 pm

I have found it hugely beneficial.

For me, the only way to crack it was to spin at over 100 RPM until this felt pretty natural.
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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Thu Dec 19, 2013 15:33 pm

Don't bother

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Bobbinogs » Thu Dec 19, 2013 15:48 pm

I think this is a "It depends" one. Some folks respond really well at a certain cadence, others don't. Why not give it a go and see how you get on? The old pros used a much lower cadence than the current crop but it didn't seem to slow chaps like Mercx or Pantani down much.

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Chris Bass » Thu Dec 19, 2013 16:04 pm

I think my problem was that when i first started cycling a bit more a few years ago i used to just chuck it into the highest gear (or as high as I could) and just struggled along in that so my default position if i dont think about it is to spin quite slowly.

So I have been trying to get out of this habbit. I dont really cycle very quickly but I am trying to get a bit quicker.
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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby markhewitt1978 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 16:28 pm

I have no idea as to the correct answer. But I have read articles that the pros tend to find out what their optimum cadence is and concentrate on that, rather than trying to change to some arbitrary value.

I'm aware however that I do tend to ride with a lowish cadence which I don't think does me any favours, as I've just got a turbo trainer and cadence sensor it's something I might look at.

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Jon_1976 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 16:28 pm

I'd say just do whatever feels best for you so long as its not too slow to put undue stress on your knees. I used a cadence sensor for a while (mainly for curiosity). On flats, it was always 95-100 and lower when climbing (85-90). According to Strava and Garmin Connect, pretty much every ride averaged 87-90.

Ended up taking the sensor off as I'd obviously found my ideal cadence and it wasn't adding anything apart from a distraction.

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby SloppySchleckonds » Thu Dec 19, 2013 16:32 pm

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Moonbiker » Thu Dec 19, 2013 16:57 pm

I still find watching others cycle with really high cadence on hills looks slightly comic especially if the are going slow.

Its what you suppose to do though i suppose according to bicycles mags etc & was Froomes style in tdf, but be he isn't slow. :roll:

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Imposter » Thu Dec 19, 2013 17:03 pm

ugo.santalucia wrote:Don't bother


As above. Preferred cadence is a bit like heart rates - everbody's is different..

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby MartinB2444 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 17:36 pm

Imposter wrote:
ugo.santalucia wrote:Don't bother


As above. Preferred cadence is a bit like heart rates - everbody's is different..


Are you saying that any individuals preferred cadence and optimum cadence are the same? Is it just that the best cyclists have an optimum/preferred cadence higher than the average cyclist? Could it be that a cyclists ultimate optimum cadence is higher than their initial preferred cadence and with a bit of practice they may find their optimum cadence a year or two earlier than they would otherwise have done?

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Brakeless » Thu Dec 19, 2013 17:46 pm

Imposter wrote:
ugo.santalucia wrote:Don't bother


As above. Preferred cadence is a bit like heart rates - everbody's is different..


But if your preferred cadence would be 90 rather than 70 then it is worth trying to improve it!
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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby philthy3 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 17:49 pm

Do what suits you. A high cadence for me feels more Aerobic so whilst the big muscles are having an easier ride, the heart is pumping faster and requiring more oxygen. Pushing a big gear and low cadence feels more Anaerobic sapping the energy in the muscle groups but needing less oxygen.
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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Imposter » Thu Dec 19, 2013 18:21 pm

MartinB2444 wrote: Are you saying that any individuals preferred cadence and optimum cadence are the same? Is it just that the best cyclists have an optimum/preferred cadence higher than the average cyclist? Could it be that a cyclists ultimate optimum cadence is higher than their initial preferred cadence and with a bit of practice they may find their optimum cadence a year or two earlier than they would otherwise have done?


Cadence tends to increase silghtly in line with fitness. I have never really seen cadence as something which required specific training intervention.

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Imposter » Thu Dec 19, 2013 18:23 pm

Brakeless wrote: But if your preferred cadence would be 90 rather than 70 then it is worth trying to improve it!


Not sure what you mean. If your preferred cadence is 90, then presumbly you are already pedalling at 90.

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby bianchimoon » Thu Dec 19, 2013 19:09 pm

many years a local cycling legend told me find your ideal cadence and then drop down a gear to spin faster, best thing you can do for fitness, worked a treat for me I can now spin at 60 no trouble


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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Moonbiker » Thu Dec 19, 2013 19:24 pm

I thought 60 was alot lower than recommended?

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby edscoble » Thu Dec 19, 2013 19:53 pm

Ride a fixed wheel bike with 67" and suck it up.

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby declan1 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 21:03 pm

Definitely. I can't pedal at anything under 90 for very long as I can feel it straining my knees and I have no power. I see so many people coming to a stop going up hills in the highest gear possible. Perhaps try to get some rollers - I've heard they help smooth pedalling (and therefore cadence) quite considerably.

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Re: Is it worth trying to improve my Cadence?

Postby Mikey23 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 22:09 pm

So yes and no then ...


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