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Help me pick lights

Postby davidmt83 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 18:36 pm

Hi all,

I was looking for advice for lights to be used in well lit areas or possibly around sunset if I'm not home in time. Current thoughts:

Cateye HL-LD170 and TL-LD170 Light Set - http://www.wiggle.co.uk/cateye-hl-ld170 ... light-set/
Knog Frog Strobe LED Twinpack- http://www.wiggle.co.uk/knog-frog-strobe-led-twinpack/
LifeLine Essential LED Safety Light Set - http://www.wiggle.co.uk/lifeline-essent ... light-set/

Or I can spend more if it's worth it.

Thanks
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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby Ouija » Tue Dec 31, 2013 19:10 pm

Seriously underpowered. For a rear get a 0.5w or 1.0w flasher like the the Planet X Phaart Bleep....

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Avoid anything that runs of CR2032 style coin batteries as they either won't be very bright and if they were, they'd not run for very long on such small batteries.

For a front light, providing you don't want something to see on dark country lanes, just something to let other motorists see you, then something like the Phaart 3w lights will be more than capable enough.....

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If you are looking for something to see in complete darkness and your on a budget then you need to look at XM-L based torches and bike lights (typically from China). There's a big thread in the mountain bike section of the forum on how to get lights brighter than a cars for less than £30.

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby oxoman » Tue Dec 31, 2013 21:24 pm

Smart lunar R1 rear and Moon X300 for the front
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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby AdMaths » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:10 am

Rear: Knog Blinder Road 4 (£35 or more on Ebay)
Front: Ebay Cree XML (£18-£30 depending which model)

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby antonyfromoz » Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:30 am

if you just want lights to get you noticed then I think some of the best are the moon bikr range. I have a Moon Crescent as a rear light and it is very very bright - so much so that I dont run it on the highest setting for my commute. the front lights are also very good - and are usb rechargeable too.

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby pastey_boy » Wed Jan 01, 2014 14:42 pm

This is a great combo for not much money, the Terra gives 3hrs for one charge and is less than half price, it's also a solid well made piece of kit and comes with lots of o-rings for various mounting options. The rear is nice and bright with side mounted led's for good side visibility. Both lights are easy to mount and remove.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electron-Terr ... 51b677a73d
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/gear/cate ... -13-47658/
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http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/LIELREAR/e ... rear-light
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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby bucklb » Wed Jan 01, 2014 20:13 pm

I went for the following (in fact I went back & bought another set I was so pleased)

http://www.jejamescycles.co.uk/smart-lu ... 64043.html

Surprisingly bright, small enough to fit in a pocket and they take batteries (2xAA front, 2xAAA rear). I prefer to carry spare batteries rather than have to charge via USB etc. I reckon they last me a week comfortably (rear on flash, front on low) so that's 10+ hours.

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby MOARspeed » Thu Jan 02, 2014 02:29 am

For the rear and because I just bought one, Smart Lunar R2, they're on Ebay now at around £12-£15.
It's so bright I'm actually wondering whether to angle it so as not to dazzle drivers behind me.

As for the front, i'm still trying to figure that one out myself.

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby davidmt83 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:37 am

Thanks all - I've gone for the two Phaart lights.
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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby Pollys Bott » Thu Jan 02, 2014 18:19 pm

MOARspeed wrote:For the rear and because I just bought one, Smart Lunar R2, they're on Ebay now at around £12-£15.
It's so bright I'm actually wondering whether to angle it so as not to dazzle drivers behind me.

As for the front, i'm still trying to figure that one out myself.


I have a very slightly second-hand (as in bought a couple of months ago and used for eight short commutes) Moon XP300 sat around gathering dust...

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby Drummer_Boy » Fri Jan 03, 2014 16:30 pm

I got one of these in early December: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3800LM-CREE-X ... 1201193913

Fantastic little bit of kit. I usually use the eco setting on lit roads,and full beam on unlit and trails. It also comes with a head mount, which I used when walking up Pendle hill in the dark, in a bit of the storm 2 weeks ago (don't ask!!), all round brilliant (pun intended) :-)

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby MOARspeed » Sun Jan 05, 2014 19:43 pm

Drummer_Boy wrote:I got one of these in early December: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3800LM-CREE-X ... 1201193913

Fantastic little bit of kit. I usually use the eco setting on lit roads,and full beam on unlit and trails. It also comes with a head mount, which I used when walking up Pendle hill in the dark, in a bit of the storm 2 weeks ago (don't ask!!), all round brilliant (pun intended) :-)



Those are pretty damn good, i've seen some Youtube reviews on them. My only concern would be the battery, it could be really hard to get a replacement. 6400mah 8.4v Li-ion/Li-po batteries are not easy to come by and i've had cheap camera batteries from China, which have failed within 6 months.

Considering the price and the price versus the equivalent branded lights, it's probably still better/cheaper, as long as you can get your ahead around buying a new one every 6-12months.

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby Drummer_Boy » Mon Jan 06, 2014 10:38 am

Those are pretty damn good, i've seen some Youtube reviews on them. My only concern would be the battery, it could be really hard to get a replacement. 6400mah 8.4v Li-ion/Li-po batteries are not easy to come by and i've had cheap camera batteries from China, which have failed within 6 months.

Considering the price and the price versus the equivalent branded lights, it's probably still better/cheaper, as long as you can get your ahead around buying a new one every 6-12months.


From what I can tell they use a fairly standard 4 cell 18650 battery pack, which seem to be freely available on Fleabay and other sites :-), even Amazon have them. That was one of the concerns I had before I took the plunge as well.

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby Ouija » Mon Jan 06, 2014 16:38 pm

Just don't expect long run times. Three XM-L's off a four cell pack isn't going to give you more than an hour of run time. Better off going for single emitter with a four cell pack, double emitters with a six cell pack and triple emitters with a eight cell pack. Or at least buy an extra four cell pack and link the packs together with a DC power Y-Splitter cable when using that many emitters. That way you get longer run times and put less stress on the individual packs so that they have a longer life span.

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby The Rookie » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:57 pm

A single XM-L is more than bright enough anyway, however those lights aren't ideal on road as they are quite diffuse and will dazzle oncoming cars, I use 2 on my MTB, one with a diffuser.

For the Commute I've just replaced an XPG torch (3xAA so probably about 200-250 lumens genuine) with a Lezyne Macro (claimed 300 lumen), not had a chance to use it yet though!

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby davidmt83 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 14:22 pm

davidmt83 wrote:Thanks all - I've gone for the two Phaart lights.

I guess it's probably best to not rely on 1 rear light with potential batteries running out - can anyone recommend a rear helmet light which I suppose is the next best option?
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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby Pollys Bott » Tue Jan 07, 2014 21:48 pm

I'm currently using a Smart Lunar R1 which clips on nicely and have also used a Blackburn Flea before. I would suggest a Moon Shield but even on the lowest setting it's so bright it's better off on the seatpost where it's angled down to flood the rear wheel and road rather than point straight back and potentially dazzle people.

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby The Rookie » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:13 am

Commuting on dark country lanes I use a Moon Shield, I use it in flash mode, drivers who I work with have all been very complimentary about the fact they can see me readily, reckon it's about as bright as a car fog or brake light so not 'too bright'.

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Re: Help me pick lights

Postby davidmt83 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:47 pm

davidmt83 wrote:
davidmt83 wrote:Thanks all - I've gone for the two Phaart lights.

I guess it's probably best to not rely on 1 rear light with potential batteries running out - can anyone recommend a rear helmet light which I suppose is the next best option?

Went with a couple of these: https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/LIPHSOFL/ ... -led-light
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