140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

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140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby miceden » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:17 am

Hi all, happy new year and all that.. right... found a crack in my cf cube sting the other day so I'm in the market for a new full suspension bike in a 140mm trail / all mountain flavour.

Ideally I want a 26er, I might consider a 27.5in but i'm not at all interested in a 29er.

Brand wise, and for various reasons, I'm not interested in Specialized, Kona, Whyte, GT, Cube or Orange... so all this in mind what would you pick or suggest? My budget is up to £1000 for a frameset, not interested in a fully built bike unless its heavily discounted. Frame material... anything bar steel. On the weight side I'd like to keep things to 5.5lbs or less

I know that Canyon are going to come up but unless there is a UK supplier where I can demo a bike I'm not too keen.

Anyone on here riding a rocky mountain altitude?

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:57 am

Is your Cube not under warranty?
Is it to suit a 140mm fork that you already have?

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby POAH » Thu Jan 02, 2014 13:14 pm

and what do we get for doing all the work?

what have you looked at already

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby ej2320 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 13:48 pm

Get a second hand frame

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby lawman » Thu Jan 02, 2014 13:51 pm

You'll be very lucky to get a 5.5lb 140mm frame for a grand unless you look second hand it certainly won't be aluminium so carbon is your only option really. A second hand Ibis Mojo would be a good shout, Santa Cruz Blur LTc or for something a with a smidge less travel, the TRc is a superb bike. shame you need it now as I'll probably be selling my Mojo HD later in the year!

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby Cqc » Thu Jan 02, 2014 14:04 pm

miceden wrote:.

Brand wise, and for various reasons, I'm not interested in Specialized, Kona, Whyte, GT, Cube or Orange...

Why not? Apart from orange, they are the best brands out there... By excluding them, you're excluding the best bikes on the market... And canyon don't sell frames...

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby lawman » Thu Jan 02, 2014 14:18 pm

Cqc wrote:
miceden wrote:.

Brand wise, and for various reasons, I'm not interested in Specialized, Kona, Whyte, GT, Cube or Orange...

Why not? Apart from orange, they are the best brands out there... By excluding them, you're excluding the best bikes on the market... And canyon don't sell frames...


Well Stumpjumpers are massively over-rated, before the 2014 Process most Kona's were average at best, GT's are steep, high and not very pretty, and Cube's tend to have poor suspension setups. Whyte are a good shout though, the 146 is a good bike!

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby benpinnick » Thu Jan 02, 2014 14:22 pm

Lawman's right - 5.5lbs is nigh on impossible for your money.
A Flock of Birds
+ some other bikes.

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby Cqc » Thu Jan 02, 2014 15:08 pm

Stumjumpers I agree are only good in their 26" form, but then their sick, their 29er version is crap, 2014 Konas are great even if their old ones aren't,cube and gt fair enough, whyte are good too. OP, consider specialized, kona, and white at least

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby Cqc » Thu Jan 02, 2014 15:09 pm

Norco sight is what you want, afterthought

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Thu Jan 02, 2014 15:46 pm

Cqc wrote:Norco sight is what you want, afterthought


Weak frame though. I know two people who bought them. One is on his second frame, the other is waiting for his third.

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby lawman » Thu Jan 02, 2014 16:10 pm

Cqc wrote:Stumjumpers I agree are only good in their 26" form, but then their sick, their 29er version is crap, 2014 Konas are great even if their old ones aren't,cube and gt fair enough, whyte are good too. OP, consider specialized, kona, and white at least


OP won't get a 2014 for his budget though, so the Kona options are limited and not great. The Stumpjumper's I've ridden have been over-priced, grey bags of mediocrity. They bob loads, the brain shocks are stupid and it didn't feel special at all. Add in the fact when I bought my Mojo HD the equivilant Stumpy frame was near enough £1000 more. The only bikes that fit all the OP's needs will be second hand Mojo's or Blur's, maybe a 146 but tbh there isn't a great deal else he'd be able to afford that fits his criteria

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby The Rookie » Thu Jan 02, 2014 16:20 pm

El Guapo for 150mm, but again 5.5lbs is a pipe dream new (or probably even used!)

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Thu Jan 02, 2014 16:54 pm

With your weight requirement you wont get better than this.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobi ... prod111561

Otherwise up your budget or accept that you're going to have to get something heavier.
Most aluminium full sus 140mm frames are closer to 6+lb

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby Cqc » Thu Jan 02, 2014 17:23 pm

lawman wrote:
Cqc wrote:Stumjumpers I agree are only good in their 26" form, but then their sick, their 29er version is crap, 2014 Konas are great even if their old ones aren't,cube and gt fair enough, whyte are good too. OP, consider specialized, kona, and white at least


OP won't get a 2014 for his budget though, so the Kona options are limited and not great. The Stumpjumper's I've ridden have been over-priced, grey bags of mediocrity. They bob loads, the brain shocks are stupid and it didn't feel special at all. Add in the fact when I bought my Mojo HD the equivilant Stumpy frame was near enough £1000 more. The only bikes that fit all the OP's needs will be second hand Mojo's or Blur's, maybe a 146 but tbh there isn't a great deal else he'd be able to afford that fits his criteria


No brain and no way £1000 above mojo HD ifyou get the aluminium comp version though

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby lawman » Thu Jan 02, 2014 19:24 pm

Cqc wrote:
lawman wrote:
Cqc wrote:Stumjumpers I agree are only good in their 26" form, but then their sick, their 29er version is crap, 2014 Konas are great even if their old ones aren't,cube and gt fair enough, whyte are good too. OP, consider specialized, kona, and white at least


OP won't get a 2014 for his budget though, so the Kona options are limited and not great. The Stumpjumper's I've ridden have been over-priced, grey bags of mediocrity. They bob loads, the brain shocks are stupid and it didn't feel special at all. Add in the fact when I bought my Mojo HD the equivilant Stumpy frame was near enough £1000 more. The only bikes that fit all the OP's needs will be second hand Mojo's or Blur's, maybe a 146 but tbh there isn't a great deal else he'd be able to afford that fits his criteria


No brain and no way £1000 above mojo HD ifyou get the aluminium comp version though


Used to have the brain and in the OP's budget a carbon one would be of the age that had the brain shocks. Back when I bought the HD I payed £2k and the S-Works stumpy was £3k and IIRC Trek's remedy was and still is about the same too. Not sure if they're still available but weren't on one selling Carbon Titus's with 140mm travel?

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby chrisrobs » Thu Jan 02, 2014 20:45 pm

What about Lapierre Zesty or Scott Genius?

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby oxocube1 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 21:16 pm

You've got the Mega TR as an option as it seems to have good reviews but it's a fair way off your preferred weight

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Thu Jan 02, 2014 21:17 pm

oxocube1 wrote:You've got the Mega TR as an option as it seems to have good reviews but it's a fair way off your preferred weight


A pound over weight.

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Re: 140mm full suspension trail bike - which one?

Postby oxocube1 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 21:28 pm

Also there's this Mondraker Foxy XR if you could get on with the geometry. Again very good reviews but not sure of the weight though.


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