Campagnolo v 105???

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Campagnolo v 105???

Postby scazzer » Fri Feb 21, 2014 22:18 pm

Been looking at Dolan bikes and different set ups and was wandering which is the better or prefered group set between campagnolo and 105 or is it just preference of personnel choice ??

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby upperoilcan » Fri Feb 21, 2014 22:21 pm

Woohoo !!! We ain't had one of these for a while.

Good work fella !

Oh n the answer is as like most things......what ever floats your boat.

You have also failed to mention exactly what Campag group.
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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby SloppySchleckonds » Fri Feb 21, 2014 22:33 pm

I'd go for Super Record over 105
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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby oxoman » Fri Feb 21, 2014 22:38 pm

Don't quote me, apparently Campag wears in and gets better as it ages and Shimano wears out as it gets older.
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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby scazzer » Fri Feb 21, 2014 22:45 pm

Yeah sorry realise alot of questions get repeated had a quick search but can never get exactly what im looking for prob just me haha.

The group is Veloce,reason im asking is ive got a Genises with 105 which is the only road bike ive had and im looking at getting a dolan for summer bike so just wanting to know if there is any difference between them ...

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby southdownswolf » Fri Feb 21, 2014 22:50 pm

Both are awful.

Get SRAM ;-)


If you are happy with 105, stick with it. It's a decent groupset, works well and if you are used to Shimano shifting and like it, there is no reason to buy another manufacturers.
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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby duckson » Fri Feb 21, 2014 22:58 pm

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby scazzer » Fri Feb 21, 2014 23:04 pm

southdownswolf wrote:Both are awful.

Get SRAM ;-)


If you are happy with 105, stick with it. It's a decent groupset, works well and if you are used to Shimano shifting and like it, there is no reason to buy another manufacturers.


Oh now your just confusing me :P so you reckon sram over the others ? which group would you recommend.

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby southdownswolf » Fri Feb 21, 2014 23:09 pm

No, I was joking... :D

If you are happy with 105 on your Genesis and plan to keep it, then I can't see the point of having a different manufacturers groupset on your new bike.
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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby blackpoolkev » Fri Feb 21, 2014 23:17 pm

Campagnolo spares tend to be more expensive than Shimano equivalents, something to bear in mind if you are a high mileage rider.
However I think my Athena groupset looks and works well and I am now a committed Campag user. (Some people like Fords and some like Mercedes)

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby southdownswolf » Fri Feb 21, 2014 23:32 pm

blackpoolkev wrote: However I think my Athena groupset looks and works well and I am now a committed Campag user. (Some people like Fords and some like Mercedes)


Surely that should be Toyota v Fiat?
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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby DKay » Fri Feb 21, 2014 23:40 pm

blackpoolkev wrote:Campagnolo spares tend to be more expensive than Shimano equivalents, something to bear in mind if you are a high mileage rider.


Depends on which bits go wrong. Shimano shifters are generally scrap once any part of them breaks, but you can replace individual parts on Campag ones.

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby thecycleclinic » Fri Feb 21, 2014 23:59 pm

Campag spare are not more expensive than shimano spares. Veloce is actually lighter than 105 and functionally they are the same - they change gears well for a long time.

Modern campag shifter have no spares, spare only apply to the older one I believe however compare the price of a new pair of veloce shifter (under £100) to the price of some 105 shifters. Use whatever feels most comfortable to you but Veloce is a good groupset it just works.
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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby blackpoolkev » Sat Feb 22, 2014 01:41 am

blackpoolkev wrote:Campagnolo spares tend to be more expensive than Shimano equivalents

I paid £104 for a 12-29 cassette for my Athena replacement,Ultegra 11 speed costs about £45.Campag chain £29,Shimano £20.(Ribble Cycles)

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby NapoleonD » Sat Feb 22, 2014 05:54 am

But an Ultegra 12-29 doesn't exist and you got a Chorus cassette...
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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby barrie h » Sat Feb 22, 2014 06:53 am

To me it all comes down to the shifters
go to your LBS and have a play with the shifters
personally I like Canpag because the brake lever just brakes and nothing else, the two other leavers/buttons well one changes up and the other changes down
But its what ever YOU like and can work with, they all work and do what they are meant to do
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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby northpole » Sat Feb 22, 2014 07:24 am

What Barrie said.

Both 105 and Veloce are aimed at approximately the same market point. They both traditionally marked the entry point to the quality end of each manufacturer's ranges. To me it's all about the ergos - shifters and brakes. Have a short ride on a campag equipped bike (doesn't have to be Veloce to experience the thumb shift down action/ finger push up shift) and you will quickly tell which feels better to you. Personally, I prefer the Campy shift logic, but it really is an individual preference thing. You can't really go wrong with either.

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby Bozman » Sat Feb 22, 2014 07:56 am

Campagnolo looks better, Shimano shifts better and SRAM is lighter.

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby scazzer » Sat Feb 22, 2014 09:43 am

Thanks for replies very helpful pointers and didnt realise the campagnolo was a thumb/finger shift which ive never experienced,but main thing is good to know that either set-up is as good as each other so im gonna take a drive to their shop as im not far from them and have a look and hopefully have a go at campy..

Help very much appreciated.

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Re: Campagnolo v 105???

Postby thecycleclinic » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:26 am

Veloce cost less to buy than 105 in the first place ad if you are comparing the price of chorus and ultegra components that does not help the OP as he is comparing Veloce and 105. A veloce and 105 cassettes are a similar price. KMC do the 10-93 chain and I use that as it is cheaper. Miche do good 10 speed cassettes for shimano or campagolo and they are cheaper still. Campagnolo cassettes have deep splines so even seperate steel cassette sprockets won't notch an alloy freehub body.

For 11 speed Miche do a campag cassette that shifts as well asa chorus cassette but it costs less.

The thumb shifter is easy to use not like shimano's thumb shifters on lower end groupsets which are a bit sticky and not so easy to use.
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