like it alot :D i think its good that sram are bringing ten speed to the masses, i cant wait to see x9 and x0 and see what shimano have to offer, apparently slx and above will all be 10 speed next year ....

That makes no sense at all who will still want to buy a x-0 9speed group set now. but I guess with this tactic lots of bike companies will spec these components instead of SLX which has been quite popular

no the point is that all sram groups from x7 upwards will be ten speed, this is just the first group they have unvielled, shimano have done a similar thing, they showed a new 9 speed alivio suggesting that the rest will go ten speed

Whats point of adding an extra cog on your cassette if you lose one up front? Surely this gives a smaller spread of gears?

The spread should be almost the same. It eliminates a lot of the unusable ratios from the traditional 3x9 with an added weight reduction, if I understand it correctly. Makes me regret buying new X9 last month.

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I think the idea is that this configuration (2x10) gives a higher percentage of usable gears, and less overlap than you get in a 3x9 set up.

i agree with chris, less stress on overlap means the thinner chain should last just as long, if not longer .some of this kit, or x9, will be straight on my bike when it comes out

i like the idea of two rings up front

I really like my 3x7 set up , using a 9 speed cassette less the smallest two.Giving 13 to 34 (the 13 has the centre from an 11welded in)

The cassette is spaced out 8mm on the hub for a perfect chainline in the middle front and back .Meaning I can easily ride big to big or small to small with less crossover than 2x10 or 3x9. I also spaced out my shadow mech 8 mm to give cassette clearance.

With a custom freewheel and hub you'd also have a dishless wheel.

I think the marketers have said "we've had 5,6,7,8,and 9- it must be time for10 without considering other options..

It's a shame they've not announced 10speed Gripshift as well. I've always liked and got on with SRAM's gripshift (I know it's a love or hate thing) and in the past they've usually come in lighter on the scales than the equivalent trigger shifters.

I'm still tempted though.........

That looks like one hell of a sweet concept, like SLX but better, you know?

The cranks look especially sweet...

's definately going on my bike when in comes out!

Mind you, I think the rear deraillieur could find friends in the DH/FR/4X crowd, who want something solid and well performing, without being a tank, and without costing a bomb...maybe?

I'm about to stick a Shimano Capreo 9 speed 9-26t cassette on my bike to run alongside my Hammerschmidt. Equates to 24/38t up front with 9t-26t out back. Low enough to get up the hills, high enough to really hammer back down, all without annoying front mech.

That new X7 kit does look good, reckon it'll stuff SLX....unless the big S has something up it's sleeve...

Carbon cage on X-7, I can see a significant price hike coming considering carbon cage currently only available on X-0 at approx £150

BAC: exactly. It seems as though they haven't considered anything to far from the norm, almost just 'mtbing' their road groupsets.

IMO would like to see more 'frame gearboxes' that appeared a few years ago when all the hype of the honda dh bike was around, but they seem to have gone a bit of the (bike)radar now. They'd make so much sense for full suss muddy mtbing, as long as they weren't a real problem to service and look after. Of course bottom bracket design would have to change, but pivots could be anywhere, rear wheels could be dishless, unsprung mass would be lower. Maybe Sram and Shimano have too much control over what all bike frame manufactures do?

I got nothing against 10 speed on MTBs but this move is extremely fast. Anybody wanting any decent drivetrain will be "stuck" with 10 speeds now and it requires a change of crank, cassette, shifters and chain... quite an expensive upgrade if you only need to replace a worn out chain!!!!

I know that it will still be possible to find 9speed stuff for a while so it's not a big deal for this year but next year it might become a problem.

I'd also add that a 2x9 setup is just as worthy given you have the same ratio and all. Tighter gears can be good but for most of use it's a luxury we can live without.

Cil, I reckon it would be unlikely that 9 speed would be completely replaced, this will prob's bring more options...which is always nice :D

I know it won't be completely replaced but on mid to high end compinents it will be gone...

I can remember all these arguements about replacement and compatibility problems when Shimano started t ointroduce 9 speed kit and all the harbingers of doom saying it won't stand up to the rigours of MTBing and 9speed chains won't be strong enough or capable of dealing with all the mud, shifting will never be as accurate as 8 speed, etc.

Were they right?

I'm sure it will work, I'm sure it will become the new standard but really why?

I already run a 2 x 9 setup do I need 2 x 10

With regards to Pinkster. I found an article awhile back that talked about the lack of 10 speed gripshift. I recall the answer being something like this "we are testing it now, we did not want to just do a XO grip with an extra gear. We want it to be as good as the rest of the XX group." I would expect to see some pictures of some SRAM sponsored pros at Sea Otter with XX gripshifts.

My question is DURABILITY!!!!!!!!!!!! 8 speed never gave any hassles, 9 speed on the other hand needs more attention and care..... So what will be the durability of 10 speed???? Looking at things on a glance the only real major advantage is the gear ratios. At what cost does weight vs durability come at?

2 x 10 drivetrains, bb30 bottom brackets, tapered steerer tubes, QR bolt through axles for xc. Whoever said that bikes were at their peak 5 years ago were very much mistaken and this groupset looks truly awesome