When you learn to drive you take the time to learn the rules of the road, why should it be any different with cycling? We have become lazy as a nation and need a god kick up the bum on matters like this

it is down to the individual imo, not the government, parents could take a hand though.

nothing like as black and white as you imply.

I've heard that London taxi drivers like to see cyclists jump red lights as it gets them out of the way in the melee that happens when the lights turn green.

i think bikes should have to follow rules too we got cut up by some kid on a bike just the other day and i always stop at traffic lightts when on my bike

What about adult learners? In our town we get lots of students, most of whom are clueless wallys. They have no lights, they wear their hoods and iPods and their bikes are never maintained.

The buses and taxis do like us cyclists to zoom off away from the lights, 'cos it does avoid the melee. However on lots of junctions it makes no difference because of the cycle boxes are full of wally cyclists obstructing them anyway.